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re: Supreme court rules national ban on sports betting is illegal

Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:29 am to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76527 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:29 am to
Wonder if Sessions is mumbling as he hobbles around DC..."but muh war on weed...what about Beauregard's war on weed?"
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9583 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:34 am to
woahhhhh

How far back can I claim my losses on my taxes

hey bookie, I'm gonna need a 1099
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:34 am to
I don't think that the liberal dissents were an actual dissent in this case. They don't even appear to head-on address the anti-commandeering issue.

I am starting to think, backed up by some early commentary, that they are really dissenting because the reasoning, in this case, will bear on "anti-sanctuary" cases.

quote:

Tejinder
This is an interesting observation. Because of this, somebody glancing at the opinion might wonder why all the liberal Justices dissented in Murphy. A closer look reveals that the dissents aren't about the substance of anti-commandeering doctrine, but instead about whether the unconstitutional provisions of PASPA are severable from the remainder.
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
893 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:35 am to
Sotomayor also joined Ginsburg's dissent.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:36 am to
Why am I having flashbacks to the ObamaCare case?

I have a feeling these idiots will try to claim severability when there’s no severability clause included in the law.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97037 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:37 am to
Sweet, now I can get paid from Bovada direct instead of through "Window Washers, Inc."
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:38 am to
I don't gamble but I wholly agree with this decision.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26492 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:40 am to
Good. States should have that right.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:40 am to
I'm still digesting, but this is really interesting. It's going to take me a while to figure out exactly what the dissent is trying to save here.

The opening of Ginsburg's primary dissent basically says it's illegal under federal law to allow gambling, and that should stay.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54722 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:40 am to
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Mississippi will legalize and start making a pile of money.


Will be awesome
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20076 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:43 am to
Store clerk: What do you need?

Customer: Give me $20 on pump 7 and $50 on Chicago -7
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8690 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:44 am to
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States are able to do as they wish


Weed is next.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:46 am to
Ginsburg has always had an “interesting” interpretation of the law.

Outlawing it completely is one thing. This basically made it illegal to change laws on it that existed before X day in the 70s.

Can you think of any other laws that grandfathered in one state and told the other 49 “can’t do it”?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42290 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:47 am to
I'm waiting for prostitution to be legalized next
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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54722 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:47 am to
So this includes online gambling as well?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:47 am to
You have to get elected for it to be legal.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:49 am to
Good question.

I’m not parsing the opinion but my guess is that this covers state handled betting, not private online betting which isn’t licensed by the state in question.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Ginsburg has always had an “interesting” interpretation of the law.

Outlawing it completely is one thing. This basically made it illegal to change laws on it that existed before X day in the 70s.

Can you think of any other laws that grandfathered in one state and told the other 49 “can’t do it”?



Well, there are three parts to this law, apparently:

1) States can't "authorize" gambling;
2) States can't "promote" gambling; and
3) Private parties can't "promote" gambling.

The majority strikes down all three, saying that after the first prong falls, they all fall.

Ginsburg says that's not right. She says that Congress has every right to prohibit the promotion of gambling.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:51 am to
Ginsburg doesn’t like it, she can tell Congress to pass a new law.

She can’t redraft this shite on the fly because she wants to pretend severability exists.
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
800 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:52 am to
Almost a certainty, any law passed with have a good actors clause. Anyone who previously offered sports betting would not be licensed. Bovada would be top of the bad actors list.
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