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Supreme Court Rules 9-0 for Catholic Foster Moms in Major Religious Freedom Case
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:53 am
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:53 am
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Here's the opinion.
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In Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, SCOTUS ruled that the city’s 2018 refusal to contract with Catholic Social Services (CSS) unless it agreed to certify same-sex couples as foster parents was unconstitutional.
Here's the opinion.
quote:
ROBERTS, C. J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which BREYER, SOTOMAYOR, KAGAN, KAVANAUGH, and BARRETT, JJ., joined. BARRETT, J., filed a concurring opinion, in which KAVANAUGH, J., joined, and in which BREYER, J., joined as to all but the first paragraph. ALITO, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment, in which THOMAS and GORSUCH, JJ., joined. GORSUCH, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment, in which THOMAS and ALITO, JJ., joined.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:54 am to imjustafatkid
In before the southern Baptist catholic bashers....
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:55 am to Bulldogblitz
I'm a Southern Baptist, and can't imagine why you would think a Southern Baptist would have a problem with this.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:58 am to Bulldogblitz
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In before the southern Baptist catholic bashers....
Explain.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:04 pm to Cotten
Recent talk about "The Church of Satan", maybe?
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:04 pm to imjustafatkid
A unanimous opinion on this issue is encouraging.
It also serves as a reminder that there are FAR more 9-0/8-1/7-2 type opinions than partisan 5-4 ones.
It also serves as a reminder that there are FAR more 9-0/8-1/7-2 type opinions than partisan 5-4 ones.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:05 pm to imjustafatkid
Very encouraging that all 9 came together on this. I don't always agree with their decisions and think they are too political most of the time, but kudos for this
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:08 pm to imjustafatkid
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SCOTUS ruled that the city’s 2018 refusal to contract with Catholic Social Services (CSS) unless it agreed to certify same-sex couples as foster parents was unconstitutional.
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Supreme Court Rules 9-0
Now apply this to Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:16 pm to imjustafatkid
It is important to note the press want to frame this policy as “anti-same sex”, but CSS will not place kids in the homes of ANY unmarried couple.
Their policy is stated below and is in keeping with the teaching of the Catholic Church.
“ CSS holds the religious belief that marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. Because CSS believes that certification of prospective foster families is an en- dorsement of their relationships, it will not certify unmarried cou- ples—regardless of their sexual orientation—or same-sex married cou- ples.”
Their policy is stated below and is in keeping with the teaching of the Catholic Church.
“ CSS holds the religious belief that marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. Because CSS believes that certification of prospective foster families is an en- dorsement of their relationships, it will not certify unmarried cou- ples—regardless of their sexual orientation—or same-sex married cou- ples.”
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:22 pm to imjustafatkid
The Most Conservative Supreme Court in years put fear in the minds of Leftists that Roe-V-Wade would be over turn and 2020 Election Rigging happened.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:23 pm to hnds2th
The same people who love saying "Don't like Twitter? Go somewhere else!" are mad that prospective parents can go somewhere else in the city of Philadelphia for adoptions.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:30 pm to hnds2th
As a member of the Alphabet Mafia:
1. CSS stated that they have never even been contacted by a gay or lesbian couple.
2. They are incredibly clear that they only place kids in homes that have a marriage per Catholic rules.
3. "CSS does not object to certifying gay or lesbian individuals as single foster parents or to placing gay and lesbian children."
This is less about the gays and more about shutting up some individual that had a vendetta against this particular organization.
There are already 20+ organizations in Philadelphia alone to service all couples - so this is not a situation where there is a denial of service for a City resident.
This is a nothingburger. Go on about your day, everyone.
edit: I do not like the Catholic Church, but if I want my rights then they deserve theirs. Either we are all realistically free together - or we are all in chains together. Pick one.
1. CSS stated that they have never even been contacted by a gay or lesbian couple.
2. They are incredibly clear that they only place kids in homes that have a marriage per Catholic rules.
3. "CSS does not object to certifying gay or lesbian individuals as single foster parents or to placing gay and lesbian children."
This is less about the gays and more about shutting up some individual that had a vendetta against this particular organization.
There are already 20+ organizations in Philadelphia alone to service all couples - so this is not a situation where there is a denial of service for a City resident.
This is a nothingburger. Go on about your day, everyone.
edit: I do not like the Catholic Church, but if I want my rights then they deserve theirs. Either we are all realistically free together - or we are all in chains together. Pick one.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:39 pm to imjustafatkid
I encourage you to read the opinion before calling this some major win. The majority opinion is a meandering mess that basically hinges on a clause in the city’s contract with CSS allowing the city to override, or grant exceptions to, certain agency determinations. This, SCOTUS says, effectively makes the nondiscrimination policy in the contract not a general one, as required per Oregon vs. Smith. Gorsuch’s concurrence explains how the majority sidestepped the central argument of the defense by turning it into a contract issue.
Basically, a city attorney can strike a sentence in 3.21 of the contract and they can then proceed to exclude CSS from receiving contracts.
Basically, a city attorney can strike a sentence in 3.21 of the contract and they can then proceed to exclude CSS from receiving contracts.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:50 pm to imjustafatkid
All the unanimous rulings are surprising..... just now means the dems will need to expand to 19 SC seats....
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:18 pm to imjustafatkid
When your ruling gets overturned 9-0 by the SCOTUS , that judge should be automatically impeached and removed from the bench
Posted on 6/17/21 at 2:31 pm to TideCPA
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Basically, a city attorney can strike a sentence in 3.21 of the contract and they can then proceed to exclude CSS from receiving contracts.
When they try that, I expect it to get back to the Supreme Court and for the correct decision to be made again.
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