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Supreme Court justices reverse precedent on property rights cases

Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:50 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:50 am
The Supreme Court on Friday ruled 5-4 to overturn a decades-old precedent on property rights, a decision that marks a victory for conservatives.

The previous 1985 ruling that found that an individual whose property is taken by a local government cannot file a federal suit under the Fifth Amendment until that challenge fails in state court.

But on Friday the justices ruled along ideological lines to reverse that precedent, finding that the requirement “imposes an unjustifiable burden,” conflicts with other similar rulings and “must be overruled.”

“A property owner has an actionable Fifth Amendment takings claim when the government takes his property without paying for it,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority opinion.

“That does not mean that the government must provide compensation in advance of a taking or risk having its action invalidated: So long as the property owner has some way to obtain compensation after the fact, governments need not fear that courts will enjoin their activities,” Roberts continued.

“But it does mean that the property owner has suffered a violation of his Fifth Amendment rights when the government takes his property without just compensation, and there may bring his claim in federal court.”

Conservative Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh joined Roberts on the majority decision.

Justices Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor – the liberal members of the court – dissented. LINK
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41092 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:51 am to
Makes me think about the California farmer thread the other day.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85510 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:52 am to
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Makes me think about the California farmer thread the other day.

Missed that one.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21700 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:53 am to
Hey look at that, the GOP endorsing something that actually results in less govt.

I wish it happened more often.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:53 am to
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Supreme Court justices reverse precedent on property rights cases

Good.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58017 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:54 am to
I wonder how this will impact civil forfeitures going forward. Hopefully it will get these cases to the federal level quickly and get some favorable rulings that curtail this bullshite.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41092 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:55 am to
California failing to pay farmers for seized lands. Seems like under this ruling, an action could be filed soon after, which would prevent the state from dragging out the payment process for years, thus requiring farmers to settle at a price far under market value.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12457 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:57 am to
Now if they’ll just get rid of zoning.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:59 am to
Liberals really are just state worshiping totalitarians.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21700 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:01 am to
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Liberals really are just state worshiping totalitarians.


Meh, they didnt create and renew the Patriot Act or reup FISA 702.

In truth the GOP and the dims are two sides of the same big govt coin.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85510 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:02 am to
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Meh, they didnt create and renew the Patriot Act or reup FISA 702.

Didn't Barack the Benevolent drop the ink on renewal?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17694 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:03 am to
Funny. I had some conservatives critical of Trump tell me that he would use eminent domain to do whatever he wanted, yet two of his nominees seem to disagree with that notion.

MAGA
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:06 am to
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Meh, they didnt create and renew the Patriot Act or reup FISA 702.



point well taken
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21700 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Didn't Barack the Benevolent drop the ink on renewal?




He did- which reiterates my point that neither party really has any small govt agenda.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:44 pm to
Well since it doesn’t matter you don’t waste time voting, right?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41077 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:47 pm to
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nd renew the Patriot Act


Obama has a super majority and not only did he not repeal the act, democrats increased the power of the Patriot Act after Obama and Liberals railed on the Patriot Act for the entire Bush term.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22888 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:48 pm to
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Meh, they didnt create and renew the Patriot Act or reup FISA 702.


I wrote my congressman about my belief that they consider not renewing FISA 702. He responded that it was essential for the security of the country. He is about as conservative as a HOR member can be. They can't reform bad legislation. They don't have the will.
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4754 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Now if they’ll just get rid of zoning.

Yeah that pesky zoning.
If someone wants to build a 5 story apartment building or a machine shop in the middle of a residential neighborhood, they should be able to.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94832 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:58 pm to
Hopefully they'll get around to reversing that awful New London case, along these same lines.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28774 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:02 pm to
The real magnitude of this case is that it signals their willingness to throw out precedent. Roe v. Wade won't be far behind.
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