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re: Supply chains. Nothing is being done about it.

Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59961 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:25 pm to
Sounds like some of y'all forgot Trump EO #13848

quote:

Sec. 2. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security:
(i) to have directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in a United States election;


And as to why DeSantis hasn't allowed FL ports to take the shipments?

It's just speculation, but this tracks. It may not be his call:

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58016 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:25 pm to
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Supply chains. Nothing is being done about it.


Biden said the docks in California were working 24/7 to alleviate the backlog. Just yesterday I saw a Fox reporter there who talked to a dock supervisor and he said they are only working one shift because there is either no truckers or no warehouse space to hold the items.
Someone is lying. I’ll let you figure out who that is!
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:26 pm to
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Question, is the sole issue transportation on the chain, but also the production of said goods?

Literally issues in nearly every node.

This is what happens when you shut an economy down for several months.

Among other things. Our ports are ALWAYS at near capacity. They function much like Airports. Imagine going to O'Hare and just forcing them to reduce their ability to handle air traffic by 50% for say, a month. But, the planes keep coming and when they arrive, they are able to somehow just circle above and wait.

If you then moved O'Hare back to full capacity, you are STILL gonna have planes circling for a damned long time!!!

Then, yeah. Covid "safety" restrictions have fricked up all sorts of production activities. We could probably sit here on this board and discover 30-40 things being impacted..........ALL AT ONCE.........and in a completely unnatural manner.

THIS is why you don't do the fricked up shite in the first place.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Literally issues in nearly every node.

This is what happens when you shut an economy down for several months.



Yup. Everything is fricked, not just the ports.

- Production is fricked
- Maintenance is fricked
- Transportation is fricked
- Labor force is fricked
- Energy supply is fricked in some areas
- Nobody wants to work
- Government doesn't want anything to work

Pay everyone to stay home and shut everything down... duh. Things won't get to Walmart or Amazon.

If you have a government that doesn't want commerce to work... well, its not going to work.

This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108437 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Are you sure these disruptions are not primarily aimed at the U.S.?


Everyone is getting fricked by this. We may be the most incompetent ones, but our incompetence will kill people in the Third World. Rwanda is landlocked. That’s bad for them if we’re fricked
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10989 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:29 pm to
A good long-term solution is to quit buying cheap crap from China. But, I know neither the D's or R's will be for that. Our government loves them some China.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112484 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:30 pm to
Maybe some frequent fliers can answer this about airports since I haven't flown in a long time.
I read that almost 40% of ATF inspectors have not complied with mandatory vaccination. They have about 2 more weeks before something happens ...like being fired or suspended without pay.
My question...would the absence of 1/3 of them be really inconvenient or just add a few minutes to your departure?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:30 pm to
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A good long-term solution is to quit buying cheap crap from China. But, I know neither the D's or R's will be for that. Our government loves them some China.


Its been hammered (imports) for 50-60 years, nobody cares, until they care.

Europe is all pissed off at Putin, what they really should be doing is jumping off the bridge... they fricked themselves.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Yup. Everything is fricked, not just the ports.

- Production is fricked
- Maintenance is fricked
- Transportation is fricked
- Labor force is fricked
- Energy supply is fricked in some areas
- Nobody wants to work
- Government doesn't want anything work

Pay everyone to stay home and shut everything down... duh. Things won't get to Walmart or Amazon.



Last Spring and Summer, I spoke to actual human beings who were otherwise intelligent that genuinely thought that shutting down shite all over America for several months was no big deal and that when it was over, we'd just all declare and end and go back to normal.

They literally could not even think of any long term impacts of such action. They looked at me like I had a pineapple coming out of my neck.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26782 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:31 pm to
We don't need supply chains. We need bread lines.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37281 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:31 pm to
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Which Republican would you like to do this? And under what authority?

Now, if you want to blame Republicans in this debacle, you can fully blame them for creating an environment and incentives that sent our businesses and manufacturing capabilities overseas... That would stick to them a little better...




They could also talk honestly to the American people and cut through the Leftist crap and get middle America on board a plan to push the Left harder, and to stop them from holding the country hostage.

You know, the whole way it's supposed to work. Not enough kickbacks in that business though.

Republicans have no spine, no ability to stand up to the press and talk TO the American people. And they don't want to because there's no business in solving problems.
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:32 pm to
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A good long-term solution is to quit buying cheap crap from China. But, I know neither the D's or R's will be for that. Our government loves them some China.

Red-herring

We have a problem NOW

Cool. Your "solution" would possibly impact us by 2025.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:34 pm to
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Last Spring and Summer, I spoke to actual human beings who were otherwise intelligent that genuinely thought that shutting down shite all over America for several months was no big deal and that when it was over, we'd just all declare and end and go back to normal.

They literally could not even think of any long term impacts of such action. They looked at me like I had a pineapple coming out of my neck.


The solution if this continues will work itself out naturally - a massive write down of the unfunded walking liabilities i.e. rapid decrease of population.



Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:34 pm to
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Europe is all pissed off at Putin, what they really should be doing is jumping off the bridge... they fricked themselves.



The left and people in general just have no fricking ability whatsoever to contemplate ancillary effects of policy.

If you propose to spend X doing Y, the ONLY thing people can see is X and Y. Not a fricking one of them wonders about Z. And when Z happens, they genuinely are flabbergasted. And when you tell them, "well, ya know, I kinda told you that you should worry about Z".......they come back at you with, "no one could have possibly foreseen this.....you just got lucky"
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10989 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:36 pm to
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Cool. Your "solution" would possibly impact us by 2025.


Guess you just didn't even read the "long-term" part. I was posting about what we need to do going forward.

Right now? We need to get people to work. Also, they need to do a quick analysis on the cost/benefit of moving ships around to Florida. Seems on the surface it is just too far out of the way, but how much fuel are those ships wasting tooling around waiting?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:37 pm to
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The left and people in general just have no fricking ability whatsoever to contemplate ancillary effects of policy.

If you propose to spend X doing Y, the ONLY thing people can see is X and Y. Not a fricking one of them wonders about Z. And when Z happens, they genuinely are flabbergasted. And when you tell them, "well, ya know, I kinda told you that you should worry about Z".......they come back at you with, "no one could have possibly foreseen this.....you just got lucky"


Reset will happen, but I think it will happen before previously thought. People just don't care until the food is gone at Walmart, the Amazon driver doesn't show up, or Netflix doesn't work. (by that time, its too late)

We're not there yet, but rapidly going down the path.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Right now? We need to get people to work.
That ship has sailed. Oh, it'll come back........EVENTUALLY

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Also, they need to do a quick analysis on the cost/benefit of moving ships around to Florida.
While it sounds great, the reality is that there is very little compatible infrastructure elsewhere for the type of traffic that is backed up. It would be like O'Hare being destroyed by a bomb. You can't just "redirect" that shite elsewhere in northern Illinois.

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Seems on the surface it is just too far out of the way, but how much fuel are those ships wasting tooling around waiting?
Again, trust me. All those ships are operated by people who are absolute freakishly expert in logistics and if they knew of an option that was feasible to get those ships unloaded and headed back for their next load, that option would ALREAY be getting used. You wouldn't need some politician to help them find it.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27137 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Rwanda is landlocked.


Ok... are they buying a bunch of cheap shite from China in Rwanda?

Not saying the rest of the world is not going to feel the pain, just that some of this shite is targeted specifically...
Posted by monstranceclock76
Texas
Member since Jul 2019
932 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Anyone have anything or links reporting what the Republican Party is doing about the Supply chains?


You think the republicans have power over this? lol...this is all by design
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10989 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:40 pm to
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People just don't care until the food is gone at Walmart, the Amazon driver doesn't show up, or Netflix doesn't work.


Exactly. When that happens, that is when people stop being nice and get real.
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