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re: Superfit Doctor Dies of a Heart Attack While Swimming During Triathlon Training
Posted on 9/3/22 at 6:04 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 9/3/22 at 6:04 pm to BBONDS25
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If that was the case Wouldn’t the coroner label the cause of death accidental drowning?
the answer is a big MAYBE as coroners are notoriously nonspecific in their reports which can really trip folks up. And to be fair we don't have the coroner report AFAIK, we have non-medical people's articles like the OP's link. and non-medical people very commonly misunderstand cardiac arrest to mean heart attack and may incorrectly use them interchangeably.
IMO its just more likely he drowned with or without a heart attack then arrested than he had a heart attack and simultaneously arrested before he would've drowned. he couldve drowned then had a heart attack before arresting. He could have had a heart attack, drowned then arrested. a coroner could label the cause drowning, arrest, heart attack, arrhythmia in either scenario.
also accidental is a manner of death *natural, homicide, suicide, accident, etc* its not a cause.
extra thoughts getting really in the weeds here, but people don't suddenly die from a heart attack itself. if they die suddenly it was from arrest caused by arrythmias triggered by the chemical/electric cascade resulting from the ischemic insult of the infarction (heart attack). coroners could label that death a cause by heart attack, arrhythmia or arrest. they could label a drowning, asphyxiation, homicide, electrocution, trauma, overdose, suicide etc as caused by arrest.
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Posted on 9/3/22 at 8:03 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Damn, what’s saddest to me is that it had to happen in the water. Most other places he probably would be recovering.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 8:15 pm to tarzana
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Tarzana
Tranny of the Jungle
Posted on 9/3/22 at 8:19 pm to Northwestern tiger
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People who contribute these random deaths to Covid shot are beyond stupid.
Hmmm
Posted on 9/3/22 at 9:21 pm to GhostOfFreedom
goodness
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 7:01 am
Posted on 9/3/22 at 10:18 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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Clot shot?
Thanks Trump!
Posted on 9/4/22 at 6:12 am to AMS
quote:Many years ago, a CV surgeon friend of mine was diving somewhere down around Destin. He had a dilated cardiomyopathy with Arrhythmias. Apparently, this was known only to his family and of course his cardiologist. Day to day activities it was not a problem. When diving though, he got caught up in some kind eddy, vortex or something and had to fight like hell to get out. It over worked him, got his heart rate up super fast (one would assume) and had a fatal arrhythmia.
gonna go out on a limb and say this is another case of confusing "cardiac arrest" (heart stops beating) for heart attack (myocardial infarction).
dude drowned in a current and his heart stopped, its not the same as a myocardial infarction fatality.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 6:16 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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I remember a world-class swimmer died in an open water event in the Middle East a few years back where the water temperature was super warm. It was more of a heat stroke incident then heart attack. doubting that if it was a loch in Scotland that high temperature was the issue.
Fran Crippen... and we're almost up to a dozen years now.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:22 am to Spook
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i believe that rotten tooth had something to do with his death.
More than likely it is a retained deciduous tooth and not rotten, just non vital.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:41 am to ChEgrad
Before I even read your link, I remember reading, (in 1989) an extract of the famous Framingham study, which found that extreme exercisers (6-7 days per week of at least 1 hour of continuous strenuous movement) were much more likely to die before moderate exercisers (2-4 days per week).
I used to compete in triathlons at a high level, and I know of many, many people who were in this category.
I used to compete in triathlons at a high level, and I know of many, many people who were in this category.
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:03 am to nealnan8
quote:If I'm not mistaken, the Jackson Heart Study in a collaboration of UMMC, Jackson State and Tougaloo (maybe - can't remember) was a successor to the Framingham. It started probably 20 years ago.
Framingham study
ETA - I should have mentioned that it is particularly targeting health disparities in African-Americans. We have a large target group in and around Jackson - to no one's surprise!
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 8:32 am
Posted on 9/5/22 at 8:37 pm to shel311
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It's the shark attacks of the early to mid 2000s media frenzy all over again.
Oh, my. Good callback! Yeah, the sharks were up to no good. Then the following summers them bees started raising hell, ha ha.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:16 am to AMS
It looks like most of the people dying unexpectedly are in good shape. I guess I don't have much to worry about.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:01 am to Diamondawg
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, a CV surgeon friend of mine was diving somewhere down around Destin. He had a dilated cardiomyopathy with Arrhythmias. Apparently, this was known only to his family and of course his cardiologist. Day to day activities it was not a problem. When diving though, he got caught up in some kind eddy, vortex or something and had to fight like hell to get out. It over worked him, got his heart rate up super fast (one would assume) and had a fatal arrhythmia.
Ya that can happen and is not a heart attack even though it led to cardiac arrest. But most nonmedical people read cardiac arrest and assume it's a heart attack.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 4:45 am to GhostOfFreedom
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Triathlon Training
There’s the problem. The human body and heart isn’t meant to be pressed like that. Exercise is good, psycho training is bad.
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