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re: “Suicide” of HHS official Daniel Best (day after HE released Q&A on lowering drug prices)

Posted on 11/17/18 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 6:10 pm to
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Again, I have presented most of the mainstream reporting that has been carried out in this thread (very limited). I will let the paucity of data overall speak for itself.

Again, isn't it possible that suicides aren't reported on in great detail out of respect for family and friends? Imagine what his family must be feeling. "Dad took his own life, was it because of me?" But, you and others want a bunch of stories with more graphic details.

It's not like this guy dying is going to stop the initiative. It's not as if he held knowledge on how to bring prices down that others don't.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:41 am to
Somewhat tangential, but thought it would work here...


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/18/america-opioid-crisis-warning-nhs-big-pharma-policy

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America’s opioid crisis is a warning to the NHS. Don’t let big pharma loose on policy Chris McGreal

The US watchdog that is supposed to protect patients is in thrall to an industry profiting from addiction
Sun 18 Nov 2018 00.59 EST



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The FDA assembles advisory committees of doctors and scientists to weigh the arguments for and against new drugs. In 2012, an opioid 10 times more powerful than regular painkillers, Zohydro ER, was on the agenda. By then, no one was in any doubt about the ravages of the worst drug epidemic in US history. So far, it has claimed at least 350,000 lives. Around 150 people a day are dying in a crisis with roots in the push for the mass prescribing of opioid painkillers that took off two decades ago.


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The senior FDA representative on the committee told the doctors they had no business asking such questions. He admonished the committee, saying that there had to be “a level playing field for industry”. In other words, if one company was making money from a dangerous drug then others were entitled to too, even if it was killing people. Some of the doctors were incredulous. One exclaimed that “the primary thing has to be the public health”, not profits. The committee voted 11-2 against approving Zohydro. A majority of members also said it was not safe even for those it was prescribed to. But the FDA decided it didn’t like the committee’s advice and approved the drug for sale on the grounds that it would benefit a narrow set of patients.


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The industry’s money also buys access. For more than a decade, big pharma was paying tens of thousands of dollars at a time to have its officials sitting at the same table as FDA officials deciding opioid policies. That was possible in part because the line between regulator and regulated had become increasingly blurred. A former head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which first declared the opioid crisis an epidemic, told me that key federal health agencies “had lots of industry money” and that influenced their position on the mass prescribing of opioids.

The Zohydro hearing was a turning point, at least in waking up the FDA to growing public anger at what was widely regarded as its indifference to the epidemic. Dr Margaret Hamburg, who was head of the agency when the drug was approved, acknowledged to me that within the FDA “there had been an under-appreciation of just how serious a problem this was”.

But little has really changed in a healthcare system that is primarily an industry, not a service.


Posted by Riarock410
Member since Nov 2018
1 post
Posted on 11/19/18 at 5:00 pm to
Why is it a conspiracy? If he jumped he would obviously have blunt force trauma. No conspiracy here.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107174 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 5:17 pm to
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Suicide by multiple blows to the back of the head. Hillary switching it up on us. Sneaky bitch



She had to switch it up after her normal hit man died in a gun deal gone wrong in Vegas.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
15808 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:01 pm to
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Why is it a conspiracy? If he jumped he would obviously have blunt force trauma. No conspiracy here.



Because it's *normally* specified as "jumping to their death" or something of the sort when someone commits suicide that way, even someone in the public eye. He very well could've jumped, but the OP is just pointing out the oddities in the reporting.
Posted by foxman777
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:56 am to
He was found on the garage door side of the building. All the parking is underground and there are no balconies on that side of the building.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:47 am to
https://m.theepochtimes.com/trumps-drug-pricing-czar-found-with-multiple-blunt-force-injuries-ruled-suicide_2718723.html



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Trump’s Drug Pricing Czar Found With ‘Multiple Blunt Force Injuries,’ Ruled Suicide
BY PETR SVAB
November 18, 2018 Updated: November 19, 2018


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Best was found “unresponsive” near the garage door exit of an apartment building in Navy Yard, a neighborhood about a mile south of the Capitol at 5:25 a.m. on Nov. 1, according to the District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department. Best was pronounced dead on the scene.


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Azar and Best will “know where the bodies are buried,” a health insurance lobbyist told Stat in May, though he added the two would also know how far they could go against the industry. “You can only shake up so much.” Best apparently wanted to shake up quite a bit. Two days before his death, HHS published a question-and-answer article where Best explained one of the initiatives he led was expected to save the government more than $50 billion in its first eight years on Medicare and Medicaid expenses—at the expense of drugmakers and/or other developed countries.


Linked below

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As Best explained, Americans often pay much higher prices than people in other developed countries for some expensive drugs. The plan was to attempt to level the playing field by tying how much Medicare pays for some drugs to a selection of international prices, instead of the average U.S. price.

Many European countries, for instance, exercise broad control over health care and dictate how much companies can charge for drugs. Conservative pundits have long complained over the oversized chunk of pharmaceutical research paid by Americans through higher drug prices. “The world reaps the benefits of American genius and innovation, while American citizens—and especially our great seniors, who are hit the hardest—pick up the tab,” Trump said on Oct. 25 when announcing the plan.


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Best grew up in the Erie, Pennsylvania, area and graduated from the University of Dayton. He leaves behind a wife and three sons.


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The D.C. police, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner didn’t respond to requests for comment.


https://www.hhs.gov/blog/2018/10/30/answering-your-questions-about-the-ipi-drug-pricing-model.html

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Answering Your Questions about the IPI Drug Pricing Model
October 30, 2018
By: Dan Best, Senior Advisor to the Secretary for Drug Pricing Reform


“Died” the next day (on Halloween for those with eyes to see) (found early AM Nov 1)

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Summary: HHS answers questions about the International Price

Index Model, a proposed way of paying for physician-administered drugs within Medicare.

Last week, as part of fulfilling President Trump’s promise to lower drug prices and cut down on foreign governments’ freeriding, HHS put forth a new way of paying for physician-administered drugs within Medicare, the International Price Index (IPI) Model. The model aims to: Reduce the price Medicare pays for a set of costly drugs to closer to what other countries pay. Remove perverse incentives that encourage the prescribing of more expensive drugs. Reduce physician burden associated with “buy and bill” by enabling private sector vendors to play a larger role in the purchase and distribution of these drugs


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How much money will this save patients and Medicare?

The model is projected to save the Medicare and Medicaid programs more than $17 billion over its first five years, and more than $50 billion in its first eight years.

Because Medicare beneficiaries without other coverage pay 20 percent of physician-administered drug payments as coinsurance, they would see up to $3.4 billion in savings over the first five years.

Here are two examples: A senior who receives an eye medicine that currently costs Medicare $1,800 a month, but other countries just $300, would see the coinsurance drop from around $4,400 a year to around $900 a year after full implementation of the proposal. Some Medicare beneficiaries use a drug to fight infection that currently costs Medicare $4,700 every time they receive chemotherapy. On average, it costs other countries $1,100. These beneficiaries would see their coinsurance drop from over $900 every time they use the drug to under $300 after full implementation of the proposal.


The guy was murdered...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:16 am to
https://gizmodo.com/goldman-sachs-analysts-question-whether-curing-patients-1825244673

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Goldman Sachs Analysts Question Whether Curing Patients Is Good for Business

Kristen V. Brown
4/13/18 2:44pmFiled to: GENETICS 117.5K 133 12


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Recent advancements in science and medicine have put cures within reach for diseases that have long plagued humankind. In a recent report, though, Goldman Sachs analysts posed an uncomfortable question that quickly sparked criticism.

“Is curing patients a sustainable business model?” analysts asked in an April 10 report entitled “The Genome Revolution,” which CNBC first reported.

One-and-done cures enabled by gene editing, analyst Salveen Richter wrote in the note to clients this week, are near-miraculous innovations that stand to benefit patients immensely. But they also present a challenge to business.


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The trouble is, it’s hard to reap long-term profits when you’re actually curing the patients who would buy your treatment.


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https://fortune.com/2015/05/08/cancer-drug-spending-100-billion-in-2014-headed-higher/

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Cancer drug spending hit $100 billion in 2014. Here's why it'll soon be much higher




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Spending on cancer drugs hit an all-time high last year, reaching the $100 billion mark worldwide for the first time, and cancer treatment outlays are expected to grow even faster in coming years given improvements in cancer care and survival rates.

The landmark figures come from a recent study by the IMS Institute for Healthcare Informatics. Growth in global spending on cancer drugs increased at a compound annual growth rate of 6.5% over the past five years (on a constant-dollar basis). Future spending on oncology medicines through 2018 is expected to grow as much as 8% annually. That spending remains concentrated largely in the U.S. and the five largest European countries, which together account for 66% of the total market for cancer drugs.


—-

While My Guitar Gently Weeps"

I look at you all, see the love there that's sleeping
While my guitar gently weeps
I look at the floor and I see it needs sweeping
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know why nobody told you
How to unfold your love
I don't know how someone controlled you
They bought and sold you


I look at the world and I notice it's turning
While my guitar gently weeps
With every mistake we must surely be learning
Still my guitar gently weeps

Well...

I don't know how you were diverted
You were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
No one alerted you


I look at you all, see the love there that's sleeping
[LOVE version:] I look from the wings at the play you are staging.
While my guitar gently weeps
Look at you all
[LOVE version:] As I'm sitting here doing nothing but aging
Still my guitar gently weeps

Oh, oh
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
Oh, oh, oh, oh

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, ooh

—-

The Dogs Of War"

Dogs of war and men of hate
With no cause, we don't discriminate
Discovery is to be disowned
Our currency is flesh and bone
Hell opened up and put on sale
Gather 'round and haggle
For hard cash, we will lie and deceive
Even our masters don't know
The webs we weave

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world

Invisible transfers and long distance calls
Hollow laughter in marble halls
Steps have been taken, a silent uproar
Has unleashed the dogs of war
You can't stop what has begun
Signed, sealed, they deliver oblivion
We all have a dark side, to say the least
And dealing in death is the nature of the beast

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world

The dogs of war won't negotiate
The dogs of war don't capitulate
They will take and you will give
And you must die so that they may live
You can knock at any door
But wherever you go
You know they've been there before
Well winners can lose and things can get strained
But whatever you change, you know the dogs remain

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:35 am to
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The guy was murdered...



This
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20670 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:02 pm to
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If the guy fell to his death, why not just report it as such? I offer you the same challenge...


Please understand that I’m agreeing with you. :)
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Clearly it must be a conspiracy


People simply don't kill themselves that way, dumbass.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:30 pm to
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Please understand that I’m agreeing with you. :)




The spirit of my comment was to:

check it out for yourself

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