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re: Study: Physically Weak Men More Likely To Be Socialists

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Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:02 pm to
It's funny though since your own neoliberal explanation was self-defeating from the identity politics stand point
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Study: Physically Weak Men More Likely To Be Socialists


The science is settled.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:03 pm to
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physically week and mentally strong generally go hand in hand




Says the guy who thinks the United States lost the Civil War.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:03 pm to
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It's funny though since your own neoliberal explanation was self-defeating from the identity politics stand point
wat
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:03 pm to
So losers, as Trump said!
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:05 pm to
Joshnorris is so dumb lol blood and nations durr silly whites

Affirmative action is good and serves a needed purpose, I support identity politics

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This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Says the guy who thinks the United States lost the Civil War.

Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:07 pm to
I see. Yeah. I can see that. Tough problem for sure.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:11 pm to
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How do we get there in other words.


The masses is impossible to do directly. I think you just try to be the best and most generous person you can and hope others join you.

On the government side, for the individual it starts with dropping the partisan bullshite and being open and respectful when you get a discourse going. Then you start getting people to think about how to best address problems. You also get people with different perspectives to poke holes in your solutions and they slowly get better. This difference between here and the masses is we have something tangible to work through.

I don't expect some sweeping change where people stop the team politics and have respectful and constructive discussions. That's a recipe to be disappointed. The hope is maybe, just maybe, a few more people jump in and we get marginally better ideas and results.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:14 pm to
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physically week and mentally strong generally go hand in hand
No they don't.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:14 pm to


I apologize. That was uncalled for on my part.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:15 pm to
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Joshnorris is so dumb lol blood and nations durr silly whites

Affirmative action is good and serves a needed purpose, I support identity politics

Sweating neoliberal two buttons.png
I'm not really sure what the contradiction is here but that's probably my fault because a brief explanation is necessarily imprecise.

EDIT: Neoliberals object to the nationalism part of white nationalism, they're not really hostile to ethnic identities within a polycultural context. Hence the taco truck memes.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:18 pm to
Perhaps less of a contradiction and more of an indictment on the credibility of the overarching mindset.

Some identity politics GOOD
Other identity politics BAD

I'm sure you have an argument as to why this is, as I can imagine some, but as your explanation is necessarily imprecise, so is my dismissal.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:20 pm to
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Can't disagree with science!



You can, however, argue with a moron:

More intelligent people are significantly more likely to exhibit social values and religious and political preferences that are novel to the human species in evolutionary history. Specifically, liberalism and atheism, and for men (but not women), preference for sexual exclusivity correlate with higher intelligence, a new study finds.


The study, published in the March 2010 issue of the peer-reviewed scientific journal Social Psychology Quarterly, advances a new theory to explain why people form particular preferences and values. The theory suggests that more intelligent people are more likely than less intelligent people to adopt evolutionarily novel preferences and values, but intelligence does not correlate with preferences and values that are old enough to have been shaped by evolution over millions of years."

"Evolutionarily novel" preferences and values are those that humans are not biologically designed to have and our ancestors probably did not possess. In contrast, those that our ancestors had for millions of years are "evolutionarily familiar."

"General intelligence, the ability to think and reason, endowed our ancestors with advantages in solving evolutionarily novel problems for which they did not have innate solutions," says Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics and Political Science. "As a result, more intelligent people are more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations than less intelligent people, and some of these entities and situations are preferences, values, and lifestyles."

An earlier study by Kanazawa found that more intelligent individuals were more nocturnal, waking up and staying up later than less intelligent individuals. Because our ancestors lacked artificial light, they tended to wake up shortly before dawn and go to sleep shortly after dusk. Being nocturnal is evolutionarily novel.

In the current study, Kanazawa argues that humans are evolutionarily designed to be conservative, caring mostly about their family and friends, and being liberal, caring about an indefinite number of genetically unrelated strangers they never meet or interact with, is evolutionarily novel. So more intelligent children may be more likely to grow up to be liberals.

Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health (Add Health) support Kanazawa's hypothesis. Young adults who subjectively identify themselves as "very liberal" have an average IQ of 106 during adolescence while those who identify themselves as "very conservative" have an average IQ of 95 during adolescence.

Similarly, religion is a byproduct of humans' tendency to perceive agency and intention as causes of events, to see "the hands of God" at work behind otherwise natural phenomena. "Humans are evolutionarily designed to be paranoid, and they believe in God because they are paranoid," says Kanazawa. This innate bias toward paranoia served humans well when self-preservation and protection of their families and clans depended on extreme vigilance to all potential dangers. "So, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to go against their natural evolutionary tendency to believe in God, and they become atheists."

Young adults who identify themselves as "not at all religious" have an average IQ of 103 during adolescence, while those who identify themselves as "very religious" have an average IQ of 97 during adolescence.

In addition, humans have always been mildly polygynous in evolutionary history. Men in polygynous marriages were not expected to be sexually exclusive to one mate, whereas men in monogamous marriages were. In sharp contrast, whether they are in a monogamous or polygynous marriage, women were always expected to be sexually exclusive to one mate. So being sexually exclusive is evolutionarily novel for men, but not for women. And the theory predicts that more intelligent men are more likely to value sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men, but general intelligence makes no difference for women's value on sexual exclusivity. Kanazawa's analysis of Add Health data supports these sex-specific predictions as well.

One intriguing but theoretically predicted finding of the study is that more intelligent people are no more or no less likely to value such evolutionarily familiar entities as marriage, family, children, and friends.


More information: The article "Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent" will be published in the March 2010 issue of Social Psychology Quarterly.

Provided by American Sociological Association
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:22 pm to
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BeYou

10 pages.
Looks like you hit a nerve.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:28 pm to
I know one full blown socialist. He is a guy from high school and he has cerebral palsy.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:51 pm to
I file this under the "duh" category. Weak men feel like others should be given things without having to work for them.

Strong men believe in the survival of the fittest. I.e. Nature
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