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re: Study: Marijuana Tied to Persistent Subclinical Psychotic Symptoms

Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:38 pm to
I don't smoke and couldn't give two shits about anyone who does or doesn't, but why are you citing a study aimed at tracking young teenagers (and their psychological development) and then trying to extrapolate those findings to the adult population?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:38 pm to
And?

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21402 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:40 pm to
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Are you saying the study is fake?

No, I'm saying it's b rate work rehashed from the early 80s or late 70s. My buddy's dad founded uf's addiction medicine department, wrote some similar bullshite in the 80s, based on case studies of 4 teens. Will openly admit over 25 years + female or 28 male poses 0 threat to your brain.

May not be false, but misleading as frick. And btw there are plenty of strains of marijuana being sold with less than industrial hemp levels of thc, 0.3% since you likely have no idea wtf you're talking about.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25696 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:40 pm to
Fact:

Cigarettes and Alcohol are much more dangerous and kill many more people than marijuana.

Both are legal.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:42 pm to
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teens


Found the problem.

Regular drug use of any kind in a developing brain has serious effects.

Now, let's talk about adult drug use.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56772 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

Now, let's talk about adult drug use.



Pretty fun tbh. I think everyone should spend a night out in the woods with a quarter ounce of mushrooms, a campfire, and Live at Fillmore East. It'll change your life.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:43 pm to
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extrapolate those findings to the adult population?


Because these studies move into the young adult age.. 21-26.


Brains are still developing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

Are you saying the study is fake?


Many things aren't optimal for us to do/consume. It doesn't mean they should be illegal
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
33056 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:45 pm to
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Pretty fun tbh. I think everyone should spend a night out in the woods with a quarter ounce of mushrooms, a campfire, and Live at Fillmore East. It'll change your life.


Don't forget your Floyd.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39227 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:47 pm to
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Brains are still developing.


Weed is horrible for kids!!

Let's give 10 year old little timmy 30mg of vyvanse a day every day!

#logic
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 11:47 pm
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11552 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

Many things aren't optimal for us to do/consume. It doesn't mean they should be illegal


Exactly. Should we ban alcohol, cigarettes, red meat, sugar, butter, french fries, pizza, soda, etc. as well? That way people can end up buying them from violent gangs that make massive profits on their prohibition instead?
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 11:58 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56772 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:47 pm to
I once blared Flight of the Valkyries and other Wagner across the Chattooga River while naked, folded as frick, and shooting a .45 in the sky. I felt like a veritable reincarnation of Hunter S. Thompson
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39227 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:48 pm to
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french fries


I will kill anyone who tries to get between me and French fries
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21402 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:48 pm to
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Let's give 10 year old little timmy 30mg of vyvanse a day every day!

You can give a 6 year old pharmaceutical grade methamphetamine hcl aka desoxyn at 6...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

quote:
Many things aren't optimal for us to do/consume. It doesn't mean they should be illegal


Exactly. Should we ban alcohol, cigarettes, red meat, sugar, butter, french fries, pizza, soda, etc. as well?



Let's limit all autos to 25 mph!
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39227 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

You can give a 6 year old pharmaceutical grade methamphetamine hcl aka desoxyn at 6...


fricking criminal. I can't stand when people say weed is bad yet they fill their kids with drugs that are Farrrrrr worse than weed EVER will be.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
33056 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:52 pm to
Now that's bold.

Not even sharp objects around me when I hang with the trees.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:55 pm to
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once blared Flight of the Valkyries and other Wagner across the Chattooga River while naked, folded as frick, and shooting a .45 in the sky.


I want to be your irl friend
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:56 pm to
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"For every additional year adolescents engage in regular marijuana use, their risk of exhibiting subclinical paranoia and hallucinations in future years increases in a linear manner, and the effect of cumulative use remains significant even during periods of abstinence lasting a year," the investigators note.
Well yes. This is why people who advocate for marijuana legalization, often argue that it should be treated like alcohol.

Furthermore, I would imagine that teenagers who persistently use any substance, are more likely to have clinical (or subclinical) issues anyways--especially as they get younger. Therefore, it is a self-selection issue, and often people use substances as a self-medication.

As it relates to these specific symptoms, they are symptoms that typically present themselves as individuals reach their later teens. So I could access the article, but if there isn't a control group, and we don't know how these symptoms would typically develop anyways--especially the lower threshold of subclinical symptoms.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:56 pm to
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Have you ever heard of someone dying from a marijuana overdose?



Yes.


marijuana-attributable deaths:

December, 2014: The National Institute on Drug Abuse updated its marijuana research paper, saying, “Marijuana is the illicit drug most frequently found in the blood of drivers who have been involved in accidents, including fatal ones,”

May, 2014: A study published by the University of Colorado School of Medicine found that, “the proportion of marijuana-positive drivers involved in fatal motor vehicle crashes in Colorado has increased dramatically since the commercialization of medical marijuana in the middle of 2009.”

The Office of National Drug Control Policy released a report analyzing traffic accidents from 2005 – 2009. The report noted, “Among fatally injured males who tested positive for drugs, 28 percent tested positive for cannabinoids compared with 17 percent of females,” and that, “Cannabinoids were reported in 43 percent of fatally injured drivers under age 24 who tested positive for drugs.”

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