re: Study: Marijuana Tied to Persistent Subclinical Psychotic Symptoms

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Weed is being linked to the same things.


But then follow up with

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In order to compare apples to apples, we would have to wait another 30 years and have a pack a day or more weed smokers.

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Is this proof of cannabis abuse? Low level reasoning skills?


Seriously if you can't grasp what's being said, you do have an issue with reasoning.

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So you admit to talking out of your arse? After all, we need to wait another 30 years and see how a "pack a day of MJ" affects the human body compared to cigarettes?

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What about this is throwing you off?

Smoking tobacco and tobacco use has been a main stream thing for a century. In fact, it was the first cash crop in the 1600s. Smoking weed only became somewhat popular in the 70s and no where near as wide spread as it is now.

So my comparison was accurate. We will not know the outcome of health issues for another 30 years and that will be the tip of the iceberg because those 60 year old people (give or take a decade) will be the ones from the early massive push... the 80s kids.

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Marijuana users are being judged/treated just like the blind woman at the fountain which Jesus gave sight.

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No. You are not.

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The researchers found that for each year the teens engaged in weekly marijuana use, their level of subsequent subclinical psychotic symptoms rose by 21%. The increase was greatest for paranoia (133%) and hallucinations (92%).

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"For every additional year adolescents engage in regular marijuana use, their risk of exhibiting subclinical paranoia and hallucinations in future years increases in a linear manner, and the effect of cumulative use remains significant even during periods of abstinence lasting a year," the investigators note.

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Marijuana use does not cause hallucinations,

I should know because I was a subject in a marijuana study funded by the US government and I was given high dosages of THC for a month.

I did not have any hallucinations and one of the study's findings was that the use of marijuana does not cause hallucinations.

Because of that, I can't take this study seriously.

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Ah now it makes sense! You make money from treating this "addiction"!! Let's see...is it a drug court? Outpatient rehab? Do most of your clients come to you bc a judge ordered them to? Or are you just a psychiatrist who frightened soccer moms run to when they find a joint in their kid's backpack?

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And should we follow the model purposed here in this thread, we will have a massive amount of rehabs added. Do you know the cost to Portugal? How many rehabs they had to add and how much thy spend? In the recession, they could not keep up.

Think about that part.. in a recession, they were spending SO much that they could not pay for it. Why? Because the sheer numbers going to rehabs.

Why should anybody in the US pay for your choice to do drugs?


What's being suggested in this thread is that we legalize and treat. That's not saving us money, that does nothing to the black market, all it does is create a massive welfare expense.

I haven't looked up any numbers on Portugal, but Portugal decriminalized ALL drugs. We're only talking marijuana here.

But if you're willing to pay to imprison pot smokers then you should be willing to treat them in rehab...although I firmly believe the numbers of people who truly need rehab for marijuana are minuscule. The money spent on weed prohibition is enormous.

Yet, you can't counter the studies and the logic.


1- We do not know the full effects of the drug because we are in the beginning of studying it. Unfortunate for us, we can not speed up the process. It is the teens of today that will yield us the most data 30 to 60 years from now. How ever, we know to look for somethings and studies are showing links to many things that should raise alarms.

2- Remove Weed, and study after study shows the brain is not developed until 26ish. Add back weed and we can see the effects of weed in pre 26 year olds. Why are you ok with hiding that? Then we have the issue that you are promoting it as safe, and now 77% of teens believe it to not be harmful what so ever. Why promote it as that when we have evidence that it's not true.

3- We currently have a huge issue with health care. All of those lard eating, cigar/cigarette smoking people from the 30s, 40s and 50s are now showing us the issues they have due to those things. We have people who refuse to do anything other than play with drugs getting free health care and it is driving up the cost of healthcare. We are on the verge of a single payer system. Legalize this and you will create a massive welfare heath care system just like Portugal! During the recession, they couldn't pay for those rehabs(10s of thousands added) anymore. That was around 2012. What do you think that will do to our system here? Why should the majority of American take care of you because YOU want to do drugs?

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Yet, you can't counter the studies and the logic

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Sorry dude. I'm not boarding the idiot train and going back and forth with you. People have asked you to copy/paste or screenshot your proof for 18 pages and you've danced around it. If you are unable or unwilling to do that bare minimum, you're not worth discussing anything with. I mean, you've even asserted that it's not the Drug Enforcement Administration's job to know about marijuana. You're hopeless.

you're a fricking joke dude. I've walked you up and down over this topic multiple times. You've still yet to show your magic 300 number. Screenshot and post it. I've given you all my sources and links.

Nice no comment on the 40k killed by second hand smoke from cigarettes each year. Yet you're still throwing out your "300 weed overdoses" bullshite.

Also... Weed has been smoked since time immortal. We have found marijuana strands in burial tombs from eons ago. So to say this is some recent phenomenon is both stupid and just intellectually dishonest

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I didn't force you to take the drug. I should be forced to help you get better. I

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Ok. Don't pay for rehab. As I've argued, rehab isn't needed for weed.

In this thread I'm only talking about marijuana. This thread that you started about marijuana.

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We currently have a huge issue with health care. All of those lard eating, cigar/cigarette smoking people from the 30s, 40s and 50s are now showing us the issues they have due to those things. We have people who refuse to do anything other than play with drugs getting free health care and it is driving up the cost of healthcare. We are on the verge of a single payer system. Legalize this and you will create a massive welfare heath care system just like Portugal! During the recession, they couldn't pay for those rehabs(10s of thousands added) anymore. That was around 2012. What do you think that will do to our system here? Why should the majority of American take care of you because YOU want to do drugs?

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In other words, you want the government to tell adults what to eat drink and smoke. I understand your point about health care costs driven up due to people making poor decisions but I also favor freedom. I don't think people should go to jail bc you're worried about health care costs. Otherwise we need to ban sugar, corn syrup, and trans fats asap. And all dangerous activities too in case someone breaks a bone or pulls a muscle.