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re: Study: All Humanity Comes From One Couple.................... You don't say

Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:29 pm to
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I don't think he realizes how robust the archaeological record is. He's made spurious claims, some of which have been undermined by his own links. It's amazing.


It's okay I've got someone telling me the order of Genesis is not the order of Genesis.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:31 pm to
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"No man is more ignorant than those who refuse to hear"


The irony of you and this quote.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:34 pm to
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It's okay I've got someone telling me the order of Genesis is not the order of Genesis.



Yeah I've noticed.
Posted by rickyh
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:36 pm to
Did you ever think that on this huge as earth, there were pockets of civilizations about, and it took thousands of years for them to even come in contact with one another, spread diseases, die off, the strong survived, etc.

What? You think that humans just appeared all over the place? You don't understand that the DNA that they have traced doesn't agree with what you are saying. Humanity restarted after the flood. From the same region and the same family. Can you find proof that people lived is several places before the flood, of course. The Bible states that humanity had been around a while before the great flood. But all the human growth charts agree that humans stared from one place and spread from there. No one has posted a chart to disprove what we claim. Why? There are several. They all agree. Unless you have looked at this evidence and posted something to disprove what the graphs show, then the argument is mute. Post as many graphs as you can find. They will disprove what they have been telling you for years. The Bible is 100% correct.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:38 pm to
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Can you find proof that people lived is several places before the flood, of course.


I can dismantle this whole post with one truth. There's no evidence for the biblical flood and no you can't prove the bible with the bible.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36327 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:39 pm to
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You don't understand that the DNA that they have traced doesn't agree with what you are saying.


The DNA has not stated this. Even if there is a mitochondrial Eve and a similar Adam for Y-DNA, it's never been stated that they are the same family. Look at any Y-DNA map and you'll see that humans have retained a remarkable genetic diversity, and that diversity is due to groups leaving Africa in waves of migrations, with the greatest genetic diversity in Africa itself.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:54 pm to
You are leaving out the part where we came from the same common ancestry.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36327 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:56 pm to
I'm also leaving out the part where you are an evergreen dumbass.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:35 pm to
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Hrm, if only there was a way to convert years to days...

How did this make sense in your head?

The 7 days of creation are not defined by 24 hours, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE there was no sun, no rotation around same, nor any revolutions of which to measure said "day"

How in the ever lovin' frick do you convert that into anything?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:41 pm to
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Play by play:

1.) Sun goes from proto-star to T Tauri
2.) T Tauri becomes current phase
3.) Earth completes formation as a hot rock devoid of water
4.) Earth undergoes many changes
5.) 1 billion years after completion the cyanobacteria form
6.) 2.5 billion years after earth forms, the first eukaryotes evolve
7.) 3.7 billion years after earth forms, land plants evolve.
8.) ~300 million years after the first land plants evolve, trees evolve.

That's the order. Which is completely different that Genesis account.

Gee, its almost as if someone was there to witness all that

We've already discussed how off our science is about life on this planet, but you've nailed down the formation of stars by the best guess theory, which doesnt involve being acted on by any outside force
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:45 pm to
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There is plenty of evidence that shows Japan was inhabited before the 2400 BCE date.

And how does a flood that erased all life alter people living anywhere, before the flood? Wouldn't have all those people have died anyway?

Like I said being only 40 days, you have no idea who died before or after that event. Just relics of their life from whatever era they lived in. Doesn't negate the possibility of a flood, at all.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:06 pm to
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Doesn't negate the possibility of a flood, at all.


You know what does? The lack of evidence of a global flood.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:08 pm to
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We've already discussed how off our science is about life on this planet, but you've nailed down the formation of stars by the best guess theory, which doesnt involve being acted on by any outside force



I'm not sure what you mean by this, all it does it defeat the narrative order of Genesis. It in no way disproves God, which is not the point of what I have been arguing.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21825 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:15 pm to
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The 7 days of creation are not defined by 24 hours, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE there was no sun, no rotation around same, nor any revolutions of which to measure said "day"



You then said each day could have been 1000 years by referencing a New Testament verse.

You correctly point out that you cannot count a day without a sun but then suggest you could the years without the sun.

Honest question: Do you know how years are counted?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21825 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:17 pm to
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Gee, its almost as if someone was there to witness all that


Lets be honest, even it someone were you'd call them a liar if their accounts differed from the Bible, making this objection worthless because it wouldn't even matter to you.

Besides, people can lie, chemistry and physics do not.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 5:22 pm
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:23 pm to
It's like he doesn't understand best explanation of observed evidence. If 2 people approach a wrecked car at the different times and the first person says "The car ran off the road two minutes and the Driver's name is Tim", but the 2nd person notices the engine is cold the interior is full of disfigured person. The second person insists the first one's story must be wrong, but the first insists "you don't know, you weren't here either."
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:27 pm to
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You are leaving out the part where we came from the same common ancestry


With advanced enough technology we could theoretically trace our lineage back to our shared single celled ancestor
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:33 pm to
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So you can't measure a day without the sun


... Uh, the length of a planetary day is determined by the speed at which that planet rotates.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12471 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:41 pm to
You may have started from a single cell. Not me. Trying to explain time to someone who doesn't understand that from God's perspective, time is meaningless. Before He created our Sun, Moon and Earth. What constituted a day? Or our or minute. Man created the calendar and clock. He studied the amount of time it took for the Earth to circle the Sun. The Earth to make one complete revolution and the moon to orbit the Earth. How long did it take God to create these? Only God Knows. But what is his measurement of time? Or does he measure it at all? Not one of the graphs that I asked you to post has been posted. Does that mean, that none of you took the time to look? You just want to argue and insult. You people are a waste of time. That is what time is. Trying to explain something to someone who knows to much already. Okay Sheeple. I will not post on this subject again unless someone posts one of the graphs that I asked you to post.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:42 pm to
Which graphs were those?
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