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re: Structural/Systemic Injustice
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:24 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:24 pm to SirWinston
I disagree. It has been more like 50 years.
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:37 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Perhaps. Perhaps not.
The default here (and in the whole country) is to blame women.
Is your default not to discount male concerns, though.
I've posted to much chagrin here that men should (at the least) be financially responsible for kids they sire.
HOWEVER, the corollary is there should also be give in the "my body, my choice equation."
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:44 pm to 4cubbies
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I guess it's easier to do that than to consider that there are very clearly groups that are disadvantaged through no fault of their own in our society
It's doesn't take long to see why no on here can stand her dumb arse.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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Is your default not to discount male concerns, though.
Touché. Although I would call it pushback, not full out discounting. Someone has to challenge the consensus around here. As much as others whine about being exposed to posts they disagree with, they clearly need people like me to fuss at.
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HOWEVER, the corollary is there should also be give in the "my body, my choice equation."
Abortion is banned in many states.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:58 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Irrelevant to the argument.
Abortion is banned in many states.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:13 pm to 4cubbies
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If immigrants are able to accomplish things that many descendants of American slaves still cannot - how is that not an indicator of systemic issues?
When people discuss systemic injustices, 95% of the time it’s race based. The US has bent over backwards to fix these injustices more than any country on the planet, and clearly it has been fixed, considering so many “people of color” spend every dollar they have to come to this country and still end up getting ahead.
Systemic injustice is just this broad, vague, intangible buzz term. It doesn’t even mean anything. There’s no logic behind it.
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no father in the home" is not Sandy's choice. The father is responsible for abandoning his children, not Sandy.
She has a lot more control over it than you say, and your “it’s not her fault” attitude enables her shitty choices in men and in life. I highly doubt this woman’s loving husband died in a car accident.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:46 am to 4cubbies
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their decisions to buy condominiums in renovated center city buildings contributes to processes that displace lower income renters
So Sandy is asking for some extra-ordinary consideration from people that have never met her?
Does Sandy consider the other people in the movie theater when she's screaming on her phone?
You are listening to some bitch melt about imagined abuses.
Does Sandy care that her son selling crack on the corner is bringing the neighbors property values down?
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structural injustice as the unintended, cumulative result of many individuals and institutions acting within existing rules and norms
Why are black women almost exclusively rude. loud, obnoxious, and unpleasant?
Sometimes you create your own problems, take responsibility and there's hope, continue to blame others and you doom yourself to misery.
You know why?
Cause people don't give a shite about people that don't give a shite.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:40 am to TN Tygah
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The US has bent over backwards to fix these injustices more than any country on the planet, and clearly it has been fixed, considering so many “people of color” spend every dollar they have to come to this country and still end up getting ahead.
This is highly debatable. Immigrants experiencing success at rates much higher than the descendants of slaves does the exact opposite of proving systemic injustice "has been fixed."
quote:This thread is discussing what systemic injustice is, with tangible examples.
Systemic injustice is just this broad, vague, intangible buzz term. It doesn’t even mean anything. There’s no logic behind it.
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and your “it’s not her fault” attitude enables her shitty choices
Can you point to any evidence of this "its not her fault" attitude that you are accusing me of having? Where are you getting this from?
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I highly doubt this woman’s loving husband died in a car accident.
Noted.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:41 am to 4cubbies
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Why is it that literally every single other emotional presumption that Sandy is responsible for no father being in the home? And you never felt the need to call that out?
Every time I am in a thread that you have started or participated in I shake my head and how unbelievably ignorant you really are
In response to the above post at what point did Sandy decide to spread her legs without any sort of a commitment or other obligation by the person who will end up being the father.
Considering that Sandy willingly spread her legs and allowed for semen to be deposited she no longer has the high ground from a moral standpoint
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:43 am to LSUbest
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So Sandy is asking for some extra-ordinary consideration from people that have never met her?
Is she? I didn't see where she's asking for anything from anyone.
This is just an example of how people can unintentionally be harmed by people just trying to survive and get ahead in society. That's the crux of this issue: no individual is to blame. It's part of, as Bard phrased it, "the chaos of life."
quote:Are you the bitch melting? Because that's not what this lecture or framework is at all.
You are listening to some bitch melt about imagined abuses.
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Cause people don't give a shite about people that don't give a shite.
And you clearly don't give a shite.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:47 am to dafif
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at what point did Sandy decide to spread her legs without any sort of a commitment or other obligation by the person who will end up being the father.
What are the details surrounding the births of her children? How are you privy to them?
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Considering that Sandy willingly spread her legs and allowed for semen to be deposited she no longer has the high ground from a moral standpoint
So every woman who has ever had a child or has had sex has no moral ground? You feel that way about your mother?
For all you know, Sandy was married and is a widow. Or was married and the father walked out on her and their kids.
Of course you only care about Sandy and not the man who willingly fathered children and is refusing to support them.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:52 am to 4cubbies
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Is she? I didn't see where she's asking for anything from anyone.
So you and the author are just pointing out "systemic injustice" with no thought to a "systemic" solution? Was the point of her paper really just to make the unnecessary observation that people face a range of different circumstances in life?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:54 am to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
6/207
Congratulations. You're clearly winning souls for your politically correct, virtue-signaling, woke-joke agenda.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:55 am to dafif
quote:On the other hand, Sandy could be widowed. We just don't know. The OP story does not provide information necessary to come to any of those conclusions. I'd argue that is deliberate, which if true, speaks for itself. But we don't even know that for certain.
In response to the above post at what point did Sandy decide to spread her legs without any sort of a commitment or other obligation by the person who will end up being the father.
Considering that Sandy willingly spread her legs and allowed for semen to be deposited she no longer has the high ground from a moral standpoint
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:18 am to Flats
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So you and the author are just pointing out "systemic injustice" with no thought to a "systemic" solution? Was the point of her paper really just to make the unnecessary observation that people face a range of different circumstances in life?
It's academia.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:25 am to 4cubbies
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It's academia.
Undoubtedly. Whinging about a topic for 30 pages without offering a solution would be peak academia.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:54 pm to 4cubbies
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For all you know, Sandy was married and is a widow.
So.. divorce... court rules in custody and support
Since you never mentioned it . Never happened
So husband passed - why no life insurance- ?? Who is making terrible life choices?
Either way sandy is not protecting her children that she decided to have.
ETA: NC see above. Not minor details to just leave out for systemic injustice - that's the point. - spent a lifetime telling people there are consequences to your actions - not injustice
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:57 pm to 4cubbies
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quote:Sandy is the cause of her own injustice. Single mother of 2. No man in sight. No wonder she is poor. How did she cause the father of her children to be a deadbeat?
Who forced her to open her legs for the father?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:02 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Touché. Although I would call it pushback, not full out discounting. Someone has to challenge the consensus around here. As much as others whine about being exposed to posts they disagree with, they clearly need people like me to fuss at.
Well I see women all over social media with their jobs and their houses and cars blaming the patriarchy still.
Your life isn’t shite for being a woman in this country. Not even close.
Some of the stuff women complain about isn’t even real.
And women and some men really do have suicidal empathy. You use emotion over logic.
Maybe start with some honesty.
For example, if more black men being in prison equals systemic injustice. Does more men being in prison than women mean systemic injustice?
Start with honesty.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:07 pm to 4cubbies
You had to take a college course (and apparently you find it very enlightening) to learn that life's not fair.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:08 pm
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