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re: Strong on Second Amendment, Strongly Pro Choice
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:16 pm to bmy
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:16 pm to bmy
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Not sure if serious. Are you implying that all abortions involve what amounts to a "seaslug" as the "target" of the procedure?
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All? No. Most? Absolutely
According to the numbers Im looking at, approximately 47% of abortions occur at 8 weeks of gestation, on up to ">21weeks". We can even adjust it down to 40% at 8 weeks on if necessary to take out any thought of ideologically skewed numbers. Im not sure how you're defining most, I guess 60 vs 40 qualifies technically, but hardly skewed wildly in that direction.
Look up photos of fetus at 8 weeks. Im not posting one.
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Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:25 pm to davyjones
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Look up photos of fetus at 8 weeks.
So, is that when you get real serious about it? Or is that just when you think everyone else should also have an emotional reaction?
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:33 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Dont take my refraining from smartass retort as weakness, I just dont partake. So to be direct, that was a response to a comment about most abortions involving a fetus that looks like what amounts to a seaslug. I provided fodder for a different viewpoint. That's it that's all. Im not advocating that anyone do anything.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:34 pm to davyjones
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So to be direct, that was a response to a comment about most abortions involving a fetus that looks like what amounts to a seaslug.
I know what it was. I'm wondering what you expect from anyone who takes you up on your suggestion.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:39 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Their own thoughts on whether it resembles something more of a "seaslug" (thus, essentially an unremarkable nothing), or perhaps whether it's noticeably taking on a human form.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:40 pm to davyjones
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Their own thoughts on whether it resembles something more of a "seaslug" (thus, essentially an unremarkable nothing), or perhaps whether it's noticeably taking on a human form.
So the way it looks is important to you, right?
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:43 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Says the person who is so dishonest that he edited that post when he responded to it.
Says the person who was a dishonest weasel on his very first post
Classic projection.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Why dont you try reading the lead up so you can gain some context and feel for my limited point curiosity. Im not the guy you're gonna bait into some knee jerk or emotionally ill-conceived response.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 3:58 pm to davyjones
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Why dont you try reading the lead up
I already did. That's how I know why you're avoiding the answer.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:02 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Why dont you try reading the lead up
I already did. That's how I know why you're avoiding the answer.
Still banging on this thread? Lol!
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:08 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Ok, here ya go partner:
In terms of the question of whether "most" abortions involve an unremarkable object that tends to resemble what amounts to a "seaslug"....vs.....the alternative proposition that perhaps, instead, there's a relatively larger amount of abortions that involve something less unremarkable and more resembling a human form.....
Yes, it matters what it looks like in terms of unremarkable seaslug -or- noticeable human form.
Should I keep repeating myself?? I could copy and paste a few times. If you've got a separate question or curiosity about my actual position, stop trying to be cute and ask.
In terms of the question of whether "most" abortions involve an unremarkable object that tends to resemble what amounts to a "seaslug"....vs.....the alternative proposition that perhaps, instead, there's a relatively larger amount of abortions that involve something less unremarkable and more resembling a human form.....
Yes, it matters what it looks like in terms of unremarkable seaslug -or- noticeable human form.
Should I keep repeating myself?? I could copy and paste a few times. If you've got a separate question or curiosity about my actual position, stop trying to be cute and ask.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:12 pm to davyjones
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Should I keep repeating myself??
Nope, finally answering just the once will do. Now I know not to take your position seriously. That's all I was looking for.
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If you've got a separate question or curiosity about my actual position, stop trying to be cute and ask.
I suspected that your position was an emotional one and I was correct. We're good here. Enjoy your day, sport.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:21 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I easily know what your problem is....you are completely incapable of making the absolutely crucial effort to approach an issue from all possible angles and positions. That is unemotional and mechanical. That's what I do.
You wanna know what my position on abortion is? Im conflicted about it currently and cant settle on a solid position at this time. Ive got leanings, but nothing rock solid. And that's because Im happy to take into account all arguments, and on this issue there's many complex ones.
So see you're the one who gets emotional and jumps the gun. And you were wrong about me.
You wanna know what my position on abortion is? Im conflicted about it currently and cant settle on a solid position at this time. Ive got leanings, but nothing rock solid. And that's because Im happy to take into account all arguments, and on this issue there's many complex ones.
So see you're the one who gets emotional and jumps the gun. And you were wrong about me.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:25 pm to baybeefeetz
Pro 2A and Pro Choice and anti-abortion.
The choice being deciding to have sex. That's where the choice comes into play. Something I can't quite wrap my head around, that a women should carry to full term if she was raped. Do we really want a law that forces that? I know killing is wrong, but that's a hell of pill to swallow. If you are emotionally detached from the situation, not the victim or family member, its easier to take a stance. What if that is your daughter? Just really hard for me to draw a line in the sand when considering rape.
Now, consenting sex, there's your freaking choice. Now grow up and deal with it.
The choice being deciding to have sex. That's where the choice comes into play. Something I can't quite wrap my head around, that a women should carry to full term if she was raped. Do we really want a law that forces that? I know killing is wrong, but that's a hell of pill to swallow. If you are emotionally detached from the situation, not the victim or family member, its easier to take a stance. What if that is your daughter? Just really hard for me to draw a line in the sand when considering rape.
Now, consenting sex, there's your freaking choice. Now grow up and deal with it.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:25 pm to davyjones
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I easily know what your problem is....you are completely incapable of making the absolutely crucial effort to approach an issue from all possible angles and positions.
Wrong.
It's actually even simpler than that. I simply don't care to listen to emotional or dogmatic arguments.
End of story.
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You wanna know what my position on abortion is?
I already knew what your position was. It's an emotionally driven position, regardless of what you're feeling in a particular moment. Anything beyond that is unimportant.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
You and I both at some point in our lives looked like a sea slug. Guess what? Every human to ever live looks like that before they grow. At caterpillar doesn't look like a butterfly but they are the same entity just at different points in their life.
I believe it is a sad situation where people think it is ok to kill other people because of their location and what they look like.
I believe it is a sad situation where people think it is ok to kill other people because of their location and what they look like.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:30 pm to baybeefeetz
Love guns; could care less about abortion.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:31 pm to omegaman66
I guess I'll just wait for you make a useful point.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:31 pm to omegaman66
quote:But a caterpillar is not a butterfly.
At caterpillar doesn't look like a butterfly but they are the same entity just at different points in their life.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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simply don't care to listen to emotional or dogmatic arguments.
You consider the statement: "you shouldn't kill innocent human life for no reason" an emotional or dogmatic argument?
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