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re: Strong on Second Amendment, Strongly Pro Choice

Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:25 am to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27070 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 4:25 am to
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quote:person Wrong. Start there.


So what is a living organism that has human dna yet isn't human??? Your argument is stupid. Only humans have human dna.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 6:28 am to
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You don't want to answer my above post because it shows you are a jackass. So, you just try to weasel out and slime away

Says the person who was a dishonest weasel on his very first post

Save your troll attempts for someone who doesn't already know what you are.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 6:54 am to
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You can't, obviously.

Keep trying that one, though. Maybe your bullshite will work with someone else...


Lulz, you're such a little bitch.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 7:23 am to
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If WHAT is a "fundamental right?" I assume you reference either "privacy" or "abortion."
Privacy.
at this point, I almost hate to walk into the weeds of legal analysis on a thread that is divolved into childish name-calling.

I honestly think that the circuit court in Roe made a better decision in basing its analysis upon the ninth amendment than Scotus made in relying upon the 14th. It just reached the wrong conclusion.

Obviously, there exist rights which are not enumerated in the United States Constitution, because the constitution was not designed to enumerate an all-inclusive list of rights. The 9A makes this clear. The question then becomes whether federal courts have any business adjudicating such rights. I submit that article one does not give the federal government any authority to legislate in those areas and thus that article 3 does not give federal courts jurisdiction in those areas. Result? It is it matter exclusively for the state legislatures and state courts.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 9:40 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 8:56 am to
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it could be what I want it to be


No, it couldn't.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 8:57 am to
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person
quote:

So what is a living organism that has human dna yet isn't human??? Your argument is stupid. Only humans have human dna.


How do some of you get through life being this ignorant?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 9:41 am to
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quote:

So what is a living organism that has human dna yet isn't human??? Your argument is stupid. Only humans have human dna.
How do some of you get through life being this ignorant?
jacking with them about the fact that they do not understand your phrasing is entertaining, but three or four pages is enough. Please just explain it to them.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 9:44 am to
Sucking what amounts to a seaslug out of a woman isn't murder so I don't really care about abortion.

A rabbit or a deer is far more aware and intelligent than a fetus and I don't want to ban anyone from killing those either.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36444 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 10:51 am to
Who is "them/they," and to what "phrasing" do you refer?

You aren't assigning one poster's specific commentary on a narrowed topic to a larger group of people without basis, are you? Because that would be ineffectual in your apparent mission to achieve a sense of superiority.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36444 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 10:55 am to
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Sucking what amounts to a seaslug out of a woman isn't murder so I don't really care about abortion.

Not sure if serious. Are you implying that all abortions involve what amounts to a "seaslug" as the "target" of the procedure?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 11:00 am to
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You have the right to own a gun. You don't have a right to kill someone with it.

You have the right to get pregnant. You shouldn't have the right to kill someone after it.
facts
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 11:59 am to
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Who is "them/they,"
The posters he is jacking with.
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to what "phrasing" do you refer?
I recommended that he cease, but I am not going to ruin his fun.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36444 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:01 pm to
Well shite. 10-4.

My bad.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:05 pm to
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jacking with them about the fact that they do not understand your phrasing is entertaining, but three or four pages is enough. Please just explain it to them.


I'm not explaining anything to anyone who claims their views of personhood are scientific fact.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:22 pm to
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I submit that article one does not give the federal government any authority to legislate in those areas and thus that article 3 does not give federal courts jurisdiction in those areas. Result? It is it matter exclusively for the state legislatures and state courts.
Then a state court is going to be the final arbiter on whether that state's statute conflicts with the Constitution? That doesn't seem workable.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:26 pm to
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quote:

I submit that article one does not give the federal government any authority to legislate in those areas and thus that article 3 does not give federal courts jurisdiction in those areas. Result? It is it matter exclusively for the state legislatures and state courts.
Then a state court is going to be the final arbiter on whether that state's statute conflicts with the Constitution? That doesn't seem workable.
Why would the USConst (or a federal court) play any role in the development of a common law right with no federal implications?
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Maybe I should re-think that. If I were a woman, I wouldn’t want to give up any rights, because frick losing my rights.

So women have the right to murder but men don't?

Sexism at its finest folks .
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Why would the USConst (or a federal court) play any role in the development of a common law right with no federal implications?
An example, please.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36444 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:41 pm to
Id say the U.S. Constitution is the top of the pyramid that provides the building blocks for all fundamental rights of those who are subject to it, be they express or by way of judicial interpretation. It reigns supreme under the Supremacy Clause, and any question or controversy involving a fundamental right must be litigated in the federal system....ultimately. *Or at least can be. There will always be a "loser" who likely seeks further redress, and the federal judiciary is the end of the line in this area.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Not sure if serious. Are you implying that all abortions involve what amounts to a "seaslug" as the "target" of the procedure?


All? No. Most? Absolutely.
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