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Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:06 pm to riccoar
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Behind the scenes, Democrats know 2000 Mules has them dead to rights. That could have never succeeded without COVID and mass mail-in voting with the Judicial ignoring set election laws.
In essence, the Democrats have fired their shot. Even if they manufacture another crisis, that will only be accepted in ultra-Blue states. Republicans will be ready to circumvent anything that is not passed via state legislation and legal this time.
Democrats already know that in 2022 they are going to be slaughtered. Many are retiring rather than face embarrassment. Don't forget that during the POTUS steal, Republicans made +14 gains in the House.
The two attorneys in Georgia telling folks not to bother with the runoff handed the Senate to Democrats.
Everyone will be watching 2020 and 2024 closer than any election previously.
None of this matters if the people who can do anything about it refuse to act.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:26 pm to sofladawg
If Trump runs, Desantis WILL NOT ENTER THE RACE
He understands the stakes involved. if Trump crushes him in the first 10 states, a "loser tag" will be attached to him. Then in 2028 they will be a tsunami of people ready to take him out
What Republican that got beat in the primaries, ever went on to become president?
Desantis already knows the answer to this question.
Heres your list:
Risk Santorum
Jeb Bush
Lindsay Graham
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz
Mike Huckabee
Ron Paul
Bobby Jindal
Rick Perry
Scott Walker
Pat Buchanan
He understands the stakes involved. if Trump crushes him in the first 10 states, a "loser tag" will be attached to him. Then in 2028 they will be a tsunami of people ready to take him out
What Republican that got beat in the primaries, ever went on to become president?
Desantis already knows the answer to this question. Heres your list:
Risk Santorum
Jeb Bush
Lindsay Graham
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz
Mike Huckabee
Ron Paul
Bobby Jindal
Rick Perry
Scott Walker
Pat Buchanan
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:41 pm to sofladawg
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sofladawg
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Stop thinking you should post more.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:45 pm to sofladawg
Why are so many desperate to dream up a conflict between Trump and DeSantis a full year and a half before anyone even has to vote in a primary?
What is the obsession with Trump v. DeSantis this far out?
What is the obsession with Trump v. DeSantis this far out?
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:47 pm to CamdenTiger
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but really want to see what Trump would do, and go scorched earth with the Justice Department
Wanting a grifter like him with that type of ego to go scorched earth on the justice department is definitely not wise
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:47 pm to RobbBobb
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What Republican that got beat in the primaries, ever went on to become president?
Just playing devils advocate here, but how exactly would a Republican who lost in the primaries become POTUS? Wouldn't the very obvious answer be 'zero' since they weren't the nominee because they lost the primaries?
ETA: If you mean what Republican had an unsuccessful primary run, but went on to win a POTUS election in a later election, Reagan did it. Neither Bush was a candidate before their victorious elections. Nixon lost a POTUS election and came back to win a different one. Not sure your point is all that strong.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:49 pm to Indefatigable
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Just playing devils advocate here, but how exactly would a Republican who lost in the primaries become POTUS? Wouldn't the very obvious answer be 'zero' since they weren't the nominee because they lost the primaries?
Presumably talking about a future primary
i.e. lost in 1992 primaries and was the nominee in 1996
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:49 pm to sofladawg
He will run if Trump doesn't. If Trump DOES run, Ron is out.
I don't know why that's really all that hard to figure out.
I don't know why that's really all that hard to figure out.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:52 pm to sofladawg
Desantis accomplished more because he has had a sold republican house and senate . Trump would get slot done as the governor of Florida too. Desantis will not run against Trump . It’s not worth losing to Trump and losing some of his base . The democrat party would love to see both of them run .
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:52 pm to RobbBobb
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What Republican that got beat in the primaries, ever went on to become president? Desantis already knows the answer to this question.
Reagan. H W Bush.
Is that supposed to be an argument for desantis staying out?
Y’all need to get it through y’all’s thick skulls.
Desantis is running. In every poll where people have positive views on both trump and desantis they are more positive and favor desantis.
The only thing trump has is more name recognition right now.
Desantis will destroy him in debates
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:54 pm to Powerman
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ost in 1992 primaries and was the nominee in 1996
Reagan did it in 1976 vs. 1980. That's pretty much the last one that was possible. Bush 1 didn't run prior to 92, W didn't run prior to 2000, and DJT didn't run prior to 2016.
Before Reagan, Nixon lost a POTUS election in 60 before winning in 68.
Not sure that his point really holds up as a trend.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:03 pm to Indefatigable
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Not sure that his point really holds up as a trend.
Are you reallly going back 60 years?
Reagan was governor of Cali, that pretty much assured his victory. Thats not happening in todays electorate
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:10 pm to RobbBobb
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Are you reallly going back 60 years?
Well there’s only been 4 GOP presidents since then, and three of those four didn’t participate in any primaries prior to their victorious POTUS elections. The one that did, lost.
Your point is that people who have lost the 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020 GOP primaries have not become POTUS? I mean, ok. Yea. Duh.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:13 pm to sofladawg
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sofladawg
You have no fricking clue what you are talking about if you say Trump is becoming less and less popular. He is the face of the Republican Party and will still sell out stadiums and arenas when making appearances
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:20 pm to Indefatigable
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Bush 1 didn't run prior to 92
GHWB was a losing candidate in the 1980 GOP primaries. Of course, he did end up as Reagan’s VP, though.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:27 pm to sofladawg
Can we please stop this Desantis/Trump speculation and just let it play out?
This is fricking stupid, and exactly what the establishment wants:
Sowing division among conservatives when we should be united now more than ever.
frick!
This is fricking stupid, and exactly what the establishment wants:
Sowing division among conservatives when we should be united now more than ever.
frick!
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:31 pm to Godfather1
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GHWB was a losing candidate in the 1980 GOP primaries.
Thanks. Even more to my point then that losing primary elections isn't necessarily a barrier to winning later.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:34 pm to sofladawg
I'll settle this....
The person who wins the nomination will run for President.
The person who wins the nomination will run for President.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 4:35 pm to sofladawg
Fed
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