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re: st.george: we have enough signatures for election.

Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:38 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69306 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:38 am to
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So you don't care if those who do live in SG see their property taxes double? Okay, makes sense, I guess.....


If they vote for it, then they deserve the consequences. I just see you come into these threads and act like a Jackass and grandstand while Sprocket just looks uninformed and I think to myself, who would I rather piss off, the ignoramus or the a-hole. I went with the a-hole.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:40 am to
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Because they are being lied to about not needing to increase taxes for a new city.



"Link"?

Are you kidding me? I've linked to the SG website numerous times where they claim no new taxes will be needed for a new city.

Also I've provided the link to Rainey's comment that no new school taxes will be needed when they promised to build 6 new schools in SG. You're gullible enough to believe that crock.

Is it true you work for the city parish and you belong to a public employee's union? Police or fire?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41779 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:41 am to
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I really hate to see my taxes go up. But I guess the St. George people don't care about that


People in SG are more tax conscious than those in the city are. We pay lower property taxes now because they carved out special taxing districts inside the city limits to raise taxes. They purposely left out SG for a reason.

And this business of property taxes tripling is nonsense. Much of the current taxes we pay are to BREC, the Library Board, Sheriff, Assessor, Mosquito Control and to SG Fire. There is no reason those taxes would triple.

And we currently all pay property taxes to the EBR School System for operations and construction of new buildings. That wouldn't triple either and that is a very big portion of what we pay in taxes. If more buildings are needed (they probably will be), we can determine if what we pay for new construction now is sufficient or we could decide as a group to increase our taxes,

But that will be our decision and one made knowing the new schools will result in better schools for the kids.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27461 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:43 am to
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Send your kids to private school then. When you decided to live in BR you knew about the public school system.



I don't live in Baton Rouge. When I did live in Louisiana, I did send my kids to private school. It's a shame that when parents are zoned into shitty schools by government, the only option is to either move or fork up money for private education.

I live in TX now, and send my kids to the public school without a second thought.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:44 am to
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And this business of property taxes tripling is nonsense.
Who has claimed property taxes in SG will triple?
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:44 am to
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Are you kidding me? I've linked to the SG website numerous times where they claim no new taxes will be needed for a new city.

Also I've provided the link to Rainey's comment that no new school taxes will be needed when they promised to build 6 new schools in SG. You're gullible enough to believe that crock.

Is it true you work for the city parish and you belong to a public employee's union? Police or fire?


Link is referring to your statements that taxes will double or triple.

Unions & city parish? I don't recall ever mentioning any of those things. And no, not even close.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:46 am to
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or triple.
fricking liar.

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I don't recall ever mentioning any of those things. And no, not even close.
Are you sure? Asgard sure seems to know who you are.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:47 am to
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Are you sure? Asgard sure seems to know who you are.


I think he deserves a certain level of anonymity.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3082 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:47 am to
Grew up in BR but moved away several years ago. Could someone give me a rough breakdown of how St George will be zoned?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:47 am to
Why?
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:48 am to
Asgard has absolutely no idea who I am. Nor is his guess remotely close.

I said double or triple... whichever one you said. Apparently double, so please provide a link or data showing where property taxes would double.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:49 am to
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Why?


It's part of what makes TD.com so great. No need to turn it into Facebook.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100957 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:51 am to
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Stop believing the race baiters. EBRPSS is 85% black as of now. St.G will be nearly 50/50.


The new city of St. George would be 70 percent white, 23 percent black and 4 percent Asian, according to a study last year commissioned by the Baton Rouge Area Chamber and Baton Rouge Area Foundation. That's significantly whiter than the city of Baton Rouge, which is 55 percent black, 40 percent white and 3 percent Asian. The average household income of a St. George family would be $90,000, compared to $58,000 in the city of Baton Rouge.

If you look at the proposed city limits, it's laughable how gerrymandered it is in order to achieve their best-case demographic and socioeconomic breakdown.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:52 am to
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The new city of St. George would be 70 percent white, 23 percent black and 4 percent Asian, according to a study last year commissioned by the Baton Rouge Area Chamber and Baton Rouge Area Foundation


The racial makeup of student age population is vastly different. For example, EBRP as a whole is 70% white, but under 18 is 50/50.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:54 am to
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If you look at the proposed city limits, it's laughable how gerrymandered it is in order to achieve their best-case demographic and socioeconomic breakdown


You do realize the city of BR drew the lines when they incorporated, right? StG is simply what's left.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:54 am to
LINK

So the SG people still don't have 18,000 signatures in spite of your claim back in May that they already did? You continue to lie about it.....
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100957 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:54 am to
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I said double or triple... whichever one you said. Apparently double, so please provide a link or data showing where property taxes would double.


Anything at this point is conjecture. It's just people's opinions. But how can you establish the infrastructure a city needs (in large parts from scratch) and not increase taxes? It's incredibly naive. Residents would be far better off taking the extra money moving or putting their kids in private schools rather than make Louisiana look so bad in the nation's eye.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:55 am to
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You do realize the city of BR drew the lines when they incorporated, right?
Another inaccurate statement on your part. Just give up.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:56 am to
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EBRP as a whole is 70% white,


Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:57 am to
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It's part of what makes TD.com so great. No need to turn it into Facebook.
So is Sprocket a EBR govt employee union member or not?
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