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David Duvall
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Steve Bannon understands the truth about the Mueller probe, the media still doesn’t
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Over a year ago, when the media were already obsessed about alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election, I wrote that the Trump empire’s entanglement with troubled financial giant Deutsche Bank presented the only real existential threat to Donald Trump’s presidency. The media have largely ignored this story in favor of the more sensational (and much more spurious) story about Trump’s alleged collusion with the Russian government during the 2016 election.

They are still doing it today, even in the face of mounting evidence that special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe isn’t really about collusion with Russian election tampering at all. But it’s obvious that one person understands what is really happening, and that’s former Trump adviser Steve Bannon.

How badly are the media missing this story? Bannon’s own assessment of the real danger to Trump isn’t mentioned until the 13th paragraph of the Guardian’s recounting of his interview with Wolff. Then, as an afterthought, the Guardian notes that Bannon said:

“You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy. Their path to f***ing Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr and Jared Kushner … It’s as plain as a hair on your face.” …

Bannon continues: “It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner s**t. The Kushner s**t is greasy. They’re going to go right through that. They’re going to roll those two guys up and say play me or trade me.”


Whatever you think about Bannon — even if you’re one of the many people who justifiably think very little of him — here is clear evidence that he “gets it,” and it’s astounding that more people in the media don’t.


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The sharks have been publicly circling Deutsche Bank for years, for good reason. They are credibly accused of a lengthy list of criminal and regulatory violations, including money laundering for organized crime in Russia — the very thing Paul Manafort was suspected of doing even at the time Trump hired him to run his campaign. As I said last year:

However, Deutsche Bank is in serious trouble, a large portion of which is directly due to criminal and regulatory investigations currently underway at the behest of multiple governments, including the United States, the United Kingdom and Germany. Deutsche is accused of, among other things, helping organized crime elements in Russia disguise suspicious trades, and is facing billions of dollars in potential fines from the U.S. Justice Department alone from these activities, as well as from unrelated regulatory issues related to mortgage securities.

The sum total of the fines faced by the bank threatens its financial solvency. And its position is so precarious that the question of whether the German government will offer a bailout is a major political issue in Germany. If Deutsche fails, the financial effects will ripple across the globe, potentially creating a liquidity crisis similar to the one that created the 2008 recession.
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bamarep
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So the Deutche Bank shite is so terrible that they haven’t even asked for bank records?


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So is he still a seething, unhinged white supremacist not to be taken seriously?


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Many people have said from the start that the money laundering is what will get them nailed, if anything does.


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Dear Diary,

I hate Trump yak yak I hope he dies blah blah today someone said something mean about my magic underwear, etc etc, here's a bunch of stuff I hope is true, yadda yadda Trump is a doodyhead.

Nighty Night diary,
Glenn


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“You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy. Their path to f***ing Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr and Jared Kushner … It’s as plain as a hair on your face.” …



There have been a couple of people here who saw it but most are denial.


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I just don't know how much I trust Bannon

That article was pretty even handed, going as far to admit that the collusion stuff is nothing and will never be anything, and that the financial stuff is what might get Trump, if anything

But again, this is all still Bannon, the guy has been a leader in fake news well before Trump branded CNN as the leader
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David Duvall
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Many people have said from the start that the money laundering is what will get them nailed, if anything does.


Pinning down how much Trump’s various business entities owe to Deutsche Bank is an even slipperier proposition, but it has been estimated at around $300 million, all told.

That doesn’t count the $285 million that Deutsche Bank loaned to Jared Kushner’s companies right before the 2016 elections in a transaction that is now under scrutiny from a completely different set of prosecutors that are not connected to the Mueller probe.

In other words, the family and business enterprises of the president of the United States owe over half a billion dollars to a financial institution that is currently under investigation by the United States Department of Justice for, among other things, allegedly laundering money for the Russian mob. Not to belabor the obvious, but the entirety of the Department of Justice reports directly to the president.

When the DOJ finishes this investigation, the result of that investigation — especially if it lets Deutsche Bank off with a slap on the wrist — will be placed under intense scrutiny.


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There’s growing evidence that Bannon is exactly right about what Mueller is doing with his probe. The bits about Russian collusion are excellent fodder for the media that is obsessed with the idea that the election was somehow taken away from Hillary Clinton unfairly.

Substantively, though, the real concern for Trump is and always has been his entanglement with the troubled bank, which is why the one actual public threat he has made to fire Mueller centered around any potential investigation into his personal or family finances.


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It’s the one area Trumps actually threatened Mueller about. Trump didn’t want his taxes released and he sure doesn’t want his finances under investigation.


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This "This will be the real story that finally gets Trump" narrative is already more boring than the pissing hookers and Russian facebook ad narrative. Can we find something else that's got a bit more zazz? I don't want to have to wait for 4 months while this one runs its course.


David Duvall
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Mueller isn’t going away in fact I bet they drop their findings right before the mid terms. Democrats win the House and they will impeach Trump.


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In other words, the family and business enterprises of the president of the United States owe over half a billion dollars to a financial institution that is currently under investigation by the United States Department of Justice for, among other things, allegedly laundering money for the Russian mob.





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I bet they drop their findings right before the mid terms. Democrats win the House and they will impeach Trump.


You misspelled "desperately hope".
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Mueller isn’t going away in fact I bet they drop their findings right before the mid terms. Democrats win the House and they will impeach Trump.



Hope you're not betting the farm.


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David Duvall
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Lakeboy7


There are a lot of reasons this probe is so scary for the President but his finances are at the heart of his fear.


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So the Deutche Bank shite is so terrible that they haven’t even asked for bank records?


No one knows what Mueller knows, that ship is tight as a tick.


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David Duvall
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You misspelled "desperately hope".


I’ll be honest, I believe the FBI is very much anti Trump and will try to stick it to him anyway they can.


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Mueller isn’t going away in fact I bet they drop their findings right before the mid terms. Democrats win the House and they will impeach Trump.



Because it's not a politically driven witch hunt specifically for partisan gain, or anything. The timing of the investigation just worked out that way.

And even if the DNC wins the house, they won't impeach Trump.


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I’ll be honest, I believe the FBI is very much anti Trump and will try to stick it to him anyway they can.


That's fair. And likely true. I just think betting on impeachment at this point would be a suckers bet. Particularly based on an assumption that a "midterm surprise" is impending.

Add in the historical rate of impeached Presidents = Sucker's bet. A small hope that a certain subset of the population can grab onto and hold tight for hope. But ground in very little reality.

And even if all the Dems in the newly gained house wanted to impeach, I would bet their constituents might disagree. Every state had Trump voters.
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