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re: Stephen Miller: "The only process invaders are due is deportation."
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:23 pm to Riverside
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:23 pm to Riverside
quote:This is not "BS," because it is exactly what I said.
The immigration system does not require the same level of process afforded in civil or criminal proceedings. Truly “illegal” aliens are entitled to very little process. The more difficult cases with asylum claims or other circumstances are a little more involved but still do not require the level of process in a criminal case.
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:26 pm to Eurocat
quote:I am having exactly this debate in another thread.
The problem in this thread is that too many people want to get rid off illegal aliens right away and think rules and shite are a big fat pain in the arse - so ignore then, I mean, what the frick, right? We all know they are guilty and if a few are not, no biggie
These "patriots" cannot seem to grasp that allowing government to ignore someone else's rights today is just an invitation for that same government to ignore THEIR rights tomorrow.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:26 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:SCOTUS is not always right
SCOTUS agrees with me
If you're referring to United States v. Wong Kim Ark, you're being disingenuous
quote:Being in agreement with that buffoon is not something to brag about. That's a boat anchor
SCOTUS agrees with me and with SFP
quote:I noticed you didn't address the facts I stated
You are certainly free to believe otherwise
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:27 pm to Eurocat
quote:What the hell is this strawman. First, they shouldn't even be here meaning, get proactive at the border. Second, we should be hunting them down with impunity. Third, if they do commit a crime, they are not owed due process.
What you are saying is people here illegally should be able to kill someone and get away with it because of lack of jurisdiction.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:28 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
No, you falsely claim—without evidence—that DHS is violating immigration law en masse by denying “due process” to illegals. As Stephen Miller correctly points out, deportation proceedings are the only process illegals are entitled to.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:28 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:This is part of the problem. The current process is too complicated and reasonable people have been pointing this out for years
it includes hearings and appellate rights
quote:That's a feature, not a bug
the problem is that Trump's ICE has not been following those proceses
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:30 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:Would a citizen know for a fact that a person was here illegally? Very very unlikely
And that citizens can murder them without consequence
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:31 pm to somethingdifferent
RelentlessHank isn’t accurately describing immigration law or how the system works. 99% of immigration cases are basically summary proceedings.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:31 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:You did not "state" any "facts."quote:I noticed you didn't address the facts I stated
You are certainly free to believe otherwise
All you did was parrot silly, tired old talking points that are wholly inconsistent with established judicial precedent. I suspect that you know the responses as well as I do, since you have had them presented to you often enough.
You set forth what you WISH the law to be. That does not make it "the law."
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:32 pm to Eurocat
quote:Then you go on to describe exactly what SHOULD happen
The problem in this thread
quote:It absolutely does not and that is a childish strawman
That attitude leads to cops are always right
quote:
leads to people losing their homes and cars due to civil forfeiture
quote:This is why we are in the mess we are in. Attitudes precisely like this. The adults are trying to fix your childish bullcrap
But, folks, rules and rules (even if they are dumb rules
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:32 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
FaggieHank
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:32 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:THEY
allowing government to ignore someone else's rights
ARE
ILLEGALS
quote:Yet another juvenile strawman
is just an invitation for that same government to ignore THEIR rights tomorrow
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:34 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:Quote what I said that's not factual
You did not "state" any "facts."
quote:Prove it champ. Let's see you pony up
All you did was parrot silly, tired old talking points that are wholly inconsistent with established judicial precedent
quote:I read it verbatim
You set forth what you WISH the law to be
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:35 pm to Riverside
quote:Yes, they are.
99% of immigration cases are basically summary proceedings.
But even that 99% is entitled to that (essentially "summary") hearing and to appeal its result.
When the Trump administration just rounds people up and shoehorn's them onto a plane en route to Devil's Island, the administration is violating even the minimal "due process" to which those individuals were entitled.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:38 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
When the Trump administration just rounds people up and shoehorn's them onto a plane en route to Devil's Island, the administration is violating even the minimal "due process" to which those individuals were entitled.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:41 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:If they are here illegally, that should not be the case. Once they are identified as illegal, they are out. No "hearing" is necessary and they certainly should not get the right to an appeal
But even that 99% is entitled to that (essentially "summary") hearing and to appeal its result.
Absolutely not
quote:
When the Trump administration just rounds people up
"just rounds up." You mean lawfully detains illegals quote:Oh those poor souls
shoehorn's them onto a plane
quote:Negative. Absolutely wrong.
the administration is violating even the minimal "due process" to which those individuals were entitled
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:48 pm to somethingdifferent
What childish bullcrap? Rules? Regulations?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:54 pm to somethingdifferent
First, they shouldn't even be here meaning, get proactive at the border.
Agree. build a wall. Trump promised to do it and make the Mexicans pay for it and I have not heard much about the Mexicans paying for it.
Second, we should be hunting them down with impunity.
In accordance with USA rules and regulations about due process I agree with you one hundred percent!
Oh, so you are one of those boot lickers who thinks "if the authorities.cops say or think you are guilty, you are". Sorry, don't want to live in such a police state.
Agree. build a wall. Trump promised to do it and make the Mexicans pay for it and I have not heard much about the Mexicans paying for it.
Second, we should be hunting them down with impunity.
In accordance with USA rules and regulations about due process I agree with you one hundred percent!
quote:
Third, if they do commit a crime, they are not owed due process.
Oh, so you are one of those boot lickers who thinks "if the authorities.cops say or think you are guilty, you are". Sorry, don't want to live in such a police state.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 3:51 am to Riverside
quote:
quote:
Should they give birth while here, that baby is a full citizen.
You sure about that?
Under current interpretation of the law and the Constitution that is in force today, yes.
That can change tomorrow. And should.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 3:59 am
Posted on 11/28/25 at 3:58 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
When the Trump administration just rounds people up
"just rounds up."
You mean lawfully detains illegals
And herein lies the rub. To be lawfully detained, there should be (a) a warrant, or (b) probable cause.
Here's the question: what's your probable cause?
A van pulled over by highway patrol that happens to be full of Hispanics headed north from the border toward Chicago, NY, etc, no luggage, no IDs, occupants unable to identify themselves or where they are going? Yeah, loads of probable cause.
Random Hispanic person walking down the street? Not so much.
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