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re: Stephen Miller- administration considering suspending habeas corpus
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:02 pm to oklahogjr
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:02 pm to oklahogjr
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I love giving away all my rights
You already freely allowed the government to set aside the first amendment just a few years ago.
And you folks loved it.
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:03 pm to CleverUserName
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You already freely allowed the government to set aside the first amendment just a few years ago.
How so? I'm a pretty big first amendment fan so not sure what this is in reference to. Can you link the post?
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:07 pm to oklahogjr
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How so? I'm a pretty big first amendment fan so not sure what this is in reference to. Can you link the post?
When people were being hauled away in cuffs for attending religious services? Losing their job for not wanting a vaccine? We’re not allowed to freely assemble (except for BLM riots, that was (D)ifferent).
Care to show us any posts about your concern then?
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:12 pm to CleverUserName
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When people were being hauled away in cuffs for attending religious services?
I don't support that.
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Losing their job for not wanting a vaccine?
I didn't ever support a vaccine mandate. But private employers aren't bound by 1st amendment...
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We’re not allowed to freely assemble (except for BLM riots, that was (D)ifferent).
Who wasn't? I still met up with friends and such during pandemic.... Went to see family, did holidays all that stuff. Hell covid was the best time to fly anywhere as far as I am concerned empty planes and no dumbasses who don't know how to travel....
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Care to show us any posts about your concern then?
You made the assertion these were things I supported but have no proof?
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:15 pm to Warrior Court
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Trump's administration detaining whoever they want under the suspension of habeas corpus including journalists and judges who they don't agree with and scientists, doctors and education officials.
So, the Biden administration?
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:17 pm to CleverUserName
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When people were being hauled away in cuffs for attending religious services?
a. I didn't support that
b. That was state/local governments (acting under state and federal emergency declarations), not the feds
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Losing their job for not wanting a vaccine?
Mostly private actors so irrelevant to this discussion.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:17 pm to JCdawg
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Well, at least we have a president who knows what day it is
This is really wearing thin. I have voted for Trump three times. If the only standard we are holding him to is “better than Biden” then we are well and truly fricked.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Mostly private actors so irrelevant to this discussion.
Lol
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:19 pm to oklahogjr
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Losing their job for not wanting a vaccine? I didn't ever support a vaccine mandate. But private employers aren't bound by 1st amendment...
Wait what? You are going to have to explain this statement.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Losing their job for not wanting a vaccine? Mostly private actors so irrelevant to this discussion.
Yes those military personnel would like a word with you. Damn just damn. I expect better from a lawyer.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:22 pm to Warboo
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Mostly private actors so irrelevant to this discussion.
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Mostly
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:22 pm to Warboo
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Wait what?
I didn't support government mandating a vaccine.
I don't think private employers should have either but the first amendment only limits governments interference with speech, assembly, and religion and doesn't protect an employee from their employer.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:23 pm to Warboo
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Wait what? You are going to have to explain this statement.
He didn't support a vaccine mandate (neither did I). That's a public policy.
That has nothing to do with a private actor (employer) having a different policy.
The 1A stuff isn't really applicable. That was all state actors raiding churches and gatherings, not private employers as far as I know.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:23 pm to Warrior Court
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Here we go
Thats what Abe Lincoln said. And hes one of the best presidents of all time, I'm told. Mt Rushmore level of best
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:24 pm to oklahogjr
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I don't think private employers should have either but the first amendment only limits governments interference with speech, assembly, and religion and doesn't protect an employee from their employer.
Are you on crack?
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:25 pm to RobbBobb
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Thats what Abe Lincoln said. And hes one of the best presidents of all time, I'm told. Mt Rushmore level of best
He did it during a war...a civil war.
Nothing close to that exists today. Hell it's probably not even legal to rescind it today (while it 100% was during the Civil War)
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The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
Civil War = rebellion. Clearly a situation that permits suspension of HC.
No rebellion or invasion exists today.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Mostly
The illegals that are being sent out of the country are “mostly” illegal.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:26 pm to Warboo
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Are you on crack?
Nope bored at airport with a flight delay, on way back from Vegas.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:26 pm to back9Tiger
if they can support school shootings in the prayer they lead to the elimination of the 2A, they will support anything.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:26 pm to Warboo
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The illegals that are being sent out of the country are “mostly” illegal.
Your random, irrelevant response is noted.
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