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re: Stephen Miller- administration considering suspending habeas corpus
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:21 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:21 pm to David_DJS
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When you do something 20 million times and it involves people on both ends, there will be mistakes made. Somewhere between perfection and not giving a shite as you deport, deport, deport is a rational place that hopefully DHS operates. It's unfortunate the Left has put us in this position.
This 100 percent.
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:24 pm to TigerAxeOK
Do you carry your birth certificate with you or your naturalization papers? Would that even matter if habeas were suspended?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:25 pm to Taxing Authority
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It’s really easy to surrender your rights when your “team” is in charge and they acting against a population you don’t like. But that isht can be used both ways. “I trust my guy” is how we ended up with the Patriot Act and rogue FISA courts.
I am not an illegal, so I am not surrendering anything. As for both ways, yes, that is true, but the left is going to do that one day no matter what trump does. In fact, they were starting that march under Biden. Might be a good idea to beat them down now before we lose our nation.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:25 pm to KiwiHead
We could start citizens brigades to put jalapeño pepper patches on the clothes of Hispanic looking people.
Start slashing the tires of every pre-2016 F-150 we see.
Call it La noche de los cuchillos largos
Start slashing the tires of every pre-2016 F-150 we see.
Call it La noche de los cuchillos largos
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:34 pm to KiwiHead
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Do you carry your birth certificate with you or your naturalization papers? Would that even matter if habeas were suspended
If habeas were suspended I would recommend it. Fortunately you should have them. Therefore, nothing to worry about.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:35 pm to David_DJS
So how many mistakes are acceptable? What level of violation of civil liberties visited on citizens would you say is tolerable for the greater "good"...how would LEO guarantee that only those here illegally would be subject to detention without charges being filed?
What is to stop the government to use the suspension of habeas in such a way so as to use it as a tool of intimidation against political opponents? Grab someone off the street....maybe they are an illegal maybe they aren't, without habeas, how would you know? You could be apprehended and detained...you, Dave....and without habeas you would have no recourse.....not even an overworked PD.
What is to stop the government to use the suspension of habeas in such a way so as to use it as a tool of intimidation against political opponents? Grab someone off the street....maybe they are an illegal maybe they aren't, without habeas, how would you know? You could be apprehended and detained...you, Dave....and without habeas you would have no recourse.....not even an overworked PD.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:36 pm to boosiebadazz
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We could start citizens brigades to put jalapeño pepper patches on the clothes of Hispanic looking people. Start slashing the tires of every pre-2016 F-150 we see. Call it La noche de los cuchillos largos
Copy pasted and sent to ICE. Great idea.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:40 pm to KiwiHead
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So how many mistakes are acceptable? What level of violation of civil liberties visited on citizens would you say is tolerable for the greater "good"...how would LEO guarantee that only those here illegally would be subject to detention without charges being filed?
I don't know.
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What is to stop the government to use the suspension of habeas in such a way so as to use it as a tool of intimidation against political opponents?
Not a lot. Hopefully the people conducting this work are better than that.
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You could be apprehended and detained...you, Dave....and without habeas you would have no recourse.....not even an overworked PD.
That would be horrible. But the answer isn't to do nothing because it's excruciatingly hard.
Like I said. Dems and a segment of Republicans have put the country in this position. It sucks, it truly does. But what's the alternative?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:40 pm to KiwiHead
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So how many mistakes are acceptable? What level of violation of civil liberties visited on citizens would you say is tolerable for the greater "good"...how would LEO guarantee that only those here illegally would be subject to detention without charges being filed? What is to stop the government to use the suspension of habeas in such a way so as to use it as a tool of intimidation against political opponents? Grab someone off the street....maybe they are an illegal maybe they aren't, without habeas, how would you know? You could be apprehended and detained...you, Dave....and without habeas you would have no recourse.....not even an overworked PD.
A problem created by a corrupt government. Will have my papers available at all times. You should do the same. When 10s of thousands were let across per day the reverse must happen. Have proof and you are good.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:43 pm to Warboo
No doubt the reference was lost on you
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:49 pm to Warboo
Papuhs!!!! Said the kommisar....or it is ze coola for you.
You will become a non person until the government determines otherwise....if we decide to and find that we even have you in custody.
You will become a non person until the government determines otherwise....if we decide to and find that we even have you in custody.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:49 pm to Warrior Court
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they either know the law or they don't - the judiciary being "emotional" is a MAGA construct to try and destroy the institution when they don't get what they want (which is exactly what's happening today.)
How one applies their understanding is the issue here. A liberal judge will judge with a liberal slant, rather than a reasonable slant .
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:54 pm to djsdawg
I agree with this.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:16 pm to David_DJS
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And you worry about emotional MAGA.
And ppl wonder why Trump supporters act the way we do to ppl like him.
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As for the word "retard" - it's a word. It's not exotic. And it's a word.
He’s a fragile retard and still replied to you
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:23 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Could you imagine if some Dem shitebag did these things? This board would be in 100% resistance mode.
You always make this point, and the answer is always the same.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:24 pm to KiwiHead
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So how many mistakes are acceptable?
How many “mistakes per assault, murder and rape of an American by an illegal?” Is a better question.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:26 pm to djsdawg
Dems stole an election and shot Trump. Idgaf about them suspending this to go after illegals. It’s comical these posters think they’ll be grabbed off the street.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:38 pm to momentoftruth87
Don’t forget putting him in jail
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:13 am to Taxing Authority
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You tell me. By their last name? Because they have an accent?
What is wrong with you. How are citizens currently identified? quote:I am a citizen and I can prove it.
If you get erroneously arrested, I’m guessing you’d want some due process
This is stupid. You people are taking a completely unreasonable scenario and trying to apply it to a completely easy scenario. It's not apples to apples.
The Trump admin said they were going to start with violent criminal illegals and that's exactly what they've done. They aren't anywhere near "deporting citizens" level
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So why would are presuming the government is infallible?
Engrish much? The point is - complaining that the choice to deport illegals is going to be somewhere less than perfect is no excuse to not deport illegals
quote:You said we're surrendering our rights. Name one person who has done that if habeus was suspended for illegals
Huh? This is like saying “I don’t care if we do away with the first amendment, I’m not in the press, or religious.”
quote:"might"?? What the hell is that? Are they here illegally or not?
Should they have been deported if they had hispanic last names, because they might also be here illegally?
My word you people
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:57 am to Wolfhound45
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They are deliberately obstructing the Executive branch.
Executive does not make the law. EO’s are not laws, but they have the force of a law.
EO’s can be overturned by judges or the next president without Congress getting involved.
By doing nothing Congress is obstructing Trump’s agenda more than anything
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 12:59 am
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