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re: Stephen Miller- administration considering suspending habeas corpus
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'm 2/2 so far in this discussion.
You're 0/1000s.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:48 am to Turbeauxdog
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You're 0/1000s.
I posted the two cases in this thread.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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I posted the two cases in this thread.
You're using the illegitimate courts to argue against a response to illegitimate courts.
Do you not realize how ridiculous that is?
Wait, of course you don't.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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So why then did you define the word invasion in your initial post and associate it with his order?
Seriously? You cant grasp the concept? At All?
Grant used the word rebellion, because it was in the law that allowed him to suspend habeus. Yet there was no definable rebellion against the US. It was simply a lack of law enforcement. You not being capable of admitting that, proves you know youve lost the argument
Trump will use the term invasion, because the use of the law would require it. But it is an attempt to end around judges, just as Grant did
And you comically want posters to accept Grants idea of a rebellion, but reject Trumps more defensible use of the term invasion
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When you're discussing laws, words are very important.
Except when you ignore the ones that dont make your case. Like an actual rebellion didnt exist, yet he used the word anyway as justification
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:57 am to Turbeauxdog
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You're using the illegitimate courts
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Do you not realize how ridiculous that is?
Living in reality isn't ridiculous my friend. The alternative that you're projecting, however...
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah its a mess. Things are probably too far gone and have been to 10 years. These two versions of America are totally incompatible and elections are only applicable to the winning side.
Personally, I loath the left with every fiber of my being, largely do it its long running manipulation of the judiciary- this goes way back. But I am not a fan of populism either. I am a Reagan & Milton. Friedman Repub.
In reality we all all fooling ourselves if we think our once great system can function in this shite show of a culture. The last 6 years prove this.
In this environment of bi-polar radicalization things like this are to be expected. Sadly.
Personally, I loath the left with every fiber of my being, largely do it its long running manipulation of the judiciary- this goes way back. But I am not a fan of populism either. I am a Reagan & Milton. Friedman Repub.
In reality we all all fooling ourselves if we think our once great system can function in this shite show of a culture. The last 6 years prove this.
In this environment of bi-polar radicalization things like this are to be expected. Sadly.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 8:01 am
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:00 am to RobbBobb
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Seriously? You cant grasp the concept? At All?
No I don't speak retard.
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Grant used the word rebellion, because it was in the law that allowed him to suspend habeus. Y
And he could have used invasion if it was applicable. Why didn't he?
And, since it's clear he used rebellion, why did you define the word invasion in your initial post and associate it with his order?
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Trump will use the term invasion, because the use of the law would require it. But it is an attempt to end around judges, just as Grant did
I don't think it will be an "end around judges", though. They will see the illegality pretty clearly, like with the same "invasion" analysis with the AEA.
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And you comically want posters to accept Grants idea of a rebellion, but reject Trumps more defensible use of the term invasion
Grant's use of rebellion worked with the facts and reality.
Trump's use of invasion doesn't work with the facts and reality.
However, what doesn't make any sense is arguing Grant relied on "invasion" and not "rebellion", which you did.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:01 am to Turbeauxdog
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You're using the illegitimate courts to argue against a response to illegitimate courts.
"One of the things I learned from Democrats is that nothing is true unless it has been proven in a kangaroo court.
For example, there was no significant election fraud in 2020 because no court found any. Facts!
Also, OJ is innocent (criminally) and the earth is flat because no court has found otherwise.
Same energy."
-Scott Adams
In keeping with this theme:
There is no invasion because no court has found otherwise.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:04 am to AGGIES
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Man I hear Miller talking about constitutional issues on a seemingly weekly basis now. Usually sounds like he just interprets the law in a manner that is inconsistent with how judges do. Did this guy even get a law degree?
The corrupt Marxist judges are half or more of the problem.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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However, what doesn't make any sense is arguing Grant relied on "invasion" and not "rebellion", which you did.
Its so comical, your inability to reason
SFP - Grant used the term rebellion to properly invoke habeus
Robb - Trump will use the term invasion to properly invoke habeus
SFP- durrr, uhhh, but Grant didnt say invasion!! Why are you saying he did?
Robb - Because his rebellion is actually less definable that Trumps use of invasion. Yet he got away with it
SFP - But Trumps invasion will be struck down
Robb - Thanks for making my point
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:11 am to RobbBobb
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SFP - Grant used the term rebellion to properly invoke habeus
Robb - Trump will use the term invasion to properly invoke habeus
SFP- durrr, uhhh, but Grant didnt say invasion!! Why are you saying he did?
That's not an accurate description, aka, a strawman.
a. You're ignoring that I addressed the "Trump will use the term invasion" point directly. Dishonesty.
b. You don't seem to have the ability to understand 2 separate points, where I addressed YOUR use of "invasion" improperly separate from the above.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:12 am to Warfox
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The corrupt Marxist judges are half or more of the problem.
Sure are and have been for years. This has to be fixed or we might as well do away with elections given elections will not mean a thing.
Its absurd as to whats going on.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:15 am to somethingdifferent
quote:Good idea. The best you've had in quite awhile.
I can't even
quote:This is what that retarded little brain in that ideologue head of yours cannot understand, and why you read what I said without reading to comprehend but instead read to reply:
If you're going to respond that Trump is going to go authoritarian with this,
WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT PRESIDENT?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:16 am to TrueTiger
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Show me the proof of the coordianted efforts of the governments of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador, and Mexico to show this invasion, please. Circumstances is proof enough. Beliefs will work just as well as precise facts.
I guess he believes that info is readily found on the interwebs. Would appreciate a more measured take from him vs the schtick.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 8:19 am
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:17 am to mudshuvl05
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This is what that retarded little brain in that ideologue head of yours cannot understand, and why you read what I said without reading to comprehend but instead read to reply:
WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT PRESIDENT?
Also, for the record, he showed a clear ignorance about status. People can be segregated by status into more than "citizen" and "illegal". That's too much for his head, apparently.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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You're using the illegitimate courts
I get that you're the product of the retard and scoundrel factories we call law schools, but you can't expect the world to conform to your shortcomings.
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Living in reality isn't ridiculous my friend.
So do you want to give it a go for once?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:24 am to Turbeauxdog
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I get that you're the product of the retard and scoundrel factories we call law schools, but you can't expect the world to conform to your shortcomings.
Irony considering you think speaking mistruths over and over again can somehow change reality.
But that's your brand.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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Irony considering you think speaking mistruths over and over again can somehow change reality.
Dude.
You need either more meds or less if you think I'm lying about anything.
Seriously , see a doctor. It's just getting sad at this point. I may stop attacking your drivel out of pity.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:31 am to Turbeauxdog
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You need either more meds or less if you think I'm lying about anything.
Says the person trying to invalidate our entire legal system
Yes, I need the meds
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes, I need the meds
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