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Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:12 pm to Jjdoc
I don't like his conclusion, but we do need to be careful with artificial intelligence. Even if there's not 1 world government, there needs to be a globally unified pursuit of AI. We only have 1 chance to get it right.
Everyone badly needs to read Our Final Invention by Barrat. Movies like Terminator have given us a terrible misunderstanding of the real threat of an imperfectly designed AI
Everyone badly needs to read Our Final Invention by Barrat. Movies like Terminator have given us a terrible misunderstanding of the real threat of an imperfectly designed AI
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:13 pm to Jjdoc
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mankind may perish under the hand of artificial intelligence unless a world government is formed to protect us.
I give you the God Emperor-
I'm game for a world governing body... just as long as every other nation on the planet bends its knee to US imperialism.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:24 pm to cwill
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Vinge compares it to the Cold War strategy called MAD—mutually assured destruction. Coined by acronym-loving John von Neumann (also the creator of an early computer with the winning initials, MANIAC), MAD maintained Cold War peace through the promise of mutual obliteration. Like MAD, superintelligence boasts a lot of researchers secretly working to develop technologies with catastrophic potential. But it’s like mutually assured destruction without any commonsense brakes. No one will know who is ahead, so everyone will assume someone else is. And as we’ve seen, the winner won’t take all. The winner in the AI arms race will win the dubious distinction of being the first to confront the Busy Child.
EDIT: I should clarify what the Busy Child is. Chapter 1 of Barrat describes it Here
Even if you think this stuff is nonsense, it's an entertaining read.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:26 pm to Jjdoc
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Famed cosmologist Stephen Hawking, who is famous for his brilliant advances in the field of theoretical physics, says that mankind may perish under the hand of artificial intelligence unless a world government is formed to protect us.
When will idiots realize that real life is not like fricking Star Trek where everybody gets along, there's no religion and no money?
A world government would kill humanity.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:28 pm to Dale51
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Dale51
Do you?
I´m not whining, I´m simply making a comment as I read puerile posts.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:31 pm to Jjdoc
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:34 pm to G The Tiger Fan
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I laugh when I read them. Does that make me better or worse?
Yeah, I get this. Don´t know what to say. The fact you read and laugh, but don´t respond, says a lot about you (in a good way). I guess I´m thinking a board called Political Talk should be impervious to childish OT stuff.
I expect too much, methinks.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:35 pm to Jjdoc
For a genius, he sure is clueless about this.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:37 pm to Sentrius
We're gonna kill each other off eventually regardless. If nothing else, we'll create AI that wipes us out someday.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:43 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If nothing else, we'll create AI that wipes us out someday.
I've been binge watching a show on Netflix called the 100.
Basically a rogue AI that was designed to help humanity and in helping them, it thought there were too many people on this earth and overpopulation was dangerous so it hacked all of the nuclear powers weapons and bombs and used them to kill off nearly all of humanity and left the earth as a radioactive wasteland with a nuclear holocaust that took centuries to go down and the only survivors were people on a space station.
Hence "The 100".
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:50 pm to Sentrius
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Not knowing how to build a Friendly AI is not deadly, of itself.… It’s the mistaken belief that an AI will be friendly which implies an obvious path to global catastrophe.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:58 pm to funnystuff
Yep, we do need to be careful with how we develop the AI as there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.
AI's are not something that you can just press a delete button on.
AI's are not something that you can just press a delete button on.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 11:02 pm to Bestbank Tiger
That is correct..
This guy is one of those guys too smart for reality.
Their minds are in another universe and can't function outside of their own brains in the real world.
They make it as professors and other government jobs as they would not make it in the real world.
I keep stressing "real world", for a reason.
They ain't in it.
This guy is one of those guys too smart for reality.
Their minds are in another universe and can't function outside of their own brains in the real world.
They make it as professors and other government jobs as they would not make it in the real world.
I keep stressing "real world", for a reason.
They ain't in it.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 11:06 pm to Jjdoc
Adolf Hitler tried to give us a World Government and the World crucified him for his effort.
If Hitler couldn't do it, nobody can!
Shut up, Hawking!
If Hitler couldn't do it, nobody can!
Shut up, Hawking!
Posted on 3/9/17 at 11:18 pm to Jjdoc
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theoretical physics,
frick his theories
I live in the real fricking world
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:33 am to BamaChemE
No we're all citizens of planet Earth it just makes sense that some point we're going to need some form of world government it's just that at this point it's a concept that scares many of the humanoids that cling to the Past and they're ancient religions like a security blanket of a child
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:35 am to boxcar willie
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No we're all citizens of planet Earth it just makes sense that some point we're going to need some form of world government it's just that at this point it's a concept that scares many of the humanoids that cling to the Past and they're ancient religions like a security blanket of a child
Or they've advanced past the point of needing overbearing government
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:19 am to Jjdoc
Oh, nice! That's all we need is the entire world under one individual dictator. What could go wrong there.
Hawking lost me when he decided we are causing global warming soooo "The human race must move to a planet beyond our Solar System to protect the future of the species".
While I know I'm not a very smart man I don't think he has made his case for this yet. He hasn't found us a new world with better living conditions. Not even better than Al Gore's prediction of our worst case scenario.
Even if he finds one how we gonna get our sorry asses there? He says "matter/anti-matter annihilation" is the answer. "When matter and anti-matter meet up, they disappear in a burst of radiation. If this was beamed out of the back of a spaceship, it could drive it forward."
It appears his hope to achieve this is Offshoot Virgin Galactic. At this point in time they plan to own and operate at least five spaceships and two mother ships, and will charge £100,000 ($190,000) to carry passengers to an altitude of about 140km on a sub-orbital space flight.
Sounds like they are a hellova long way from developing matter/anti-matter annihilation propulsion.
I'm thinking his motor neurone disease has started eating holes in his beautiful mind.
Hawking lost me when he decided we are causing global warming soooo "The human race must move to a planet beyond our Solar System to protect the future of the species".
While I know I'm not a very smart man I don't think he has made his case for this yet. He hasn't found us a new world with better living conditions. Not even better than Al Gore's prediction of our worst case scenario.
Even if he finds one how we gonna get our sorry asses there? He says "matter/anti-matter annihilation" is the answer. "When matter and anti-matter meet up, they disappear in a burst of radiation. If this was beamed out of the back of a spaceship, it could drive it forward."
It appears his hope to achieve this is Offshoot Virgin Galactic. At this point in time they plan to own and operate at least five spaceships and two mother ships, and will charge £100,000 ($190,000) to carry passengers to an altitude of about 140km on a sub-orbital space flight.
Sounds like they are a hellova long way from developing matter/anti-matter annihilation propulsion.
I'm thinking his motor neurone disease has started eating holes in his beautiful mind.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
It doesn't need to be an overbearing government but we do need some form of cohesive rule. I understand how the very idea is frightening for many people so it will have to come slowly over time to allow people to overcome their fears if possible
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