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re: Stephen Hawking Dead - Hawking Radiation Proves Existence of God
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:01 am to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:01 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Because our lives are effected daily by a belief which we find to be mythology.
Oh, please! You're pulling out the "victim" card??
What are some examples of the personal pain you endure on a daily basis by other people not marching lockstep to your world view?
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Frankly, I'm kind of tired of having to fend off this kind of belief system
What are some examples of this fatiguing process that you're sop tired of? Be as specific as possible.
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you are so blinded to what you consider to be the absolutely truth in your own belief that it's simply impossible for you to accept that, for others, it's just a fairy tale.
I think I found your problem. You're a drama queen with a persecution complex. People with your condition are always reading personal "oppression" into things people with a healthier psychology would not even notice.
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:03 am to BlackAdam
quote:are you for real right now? this is the only order theres any evidence for, and im not the one proposing it
Your whole premise is based on one of many competing theories largely based on modern historical criticisms. There is no archaeological evidence to confirm the order you propose.
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...the vast majority of researchers believe that Mark was the first Gospel to be written, sometime around the year 70.
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This scholarly consensus holds that the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke were composed, independently of one another, sometime in the 80s or 90s. Both used a written form of the Gospel of Mark as source material for their own narratives. In addition, because both Matthew and Luke contain a large amount of material in common that is not found in Mark, most researchers hold that both Evangelists also had a collection of Jesus’ sayings that they incorporated into their works. This saying source is known as “Q” and was likely assembled in the 40s or 50s. This understanding of the origins of the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, and Luke explains why they are similar yet different from one another. The arrangement is called “The Two-Source Hypothesis” because Matthew and Luke are seen to have two written sources, Mark and Q.
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The Gospel of John emerges from an independent literary tradition that is not directly connected to the Synoptic tradition. This explains the major differences between John and the Synoptics. The Johannine narrative is indebted to oral and possibly written traditions that were transmitted from earlier decades.
boston college
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:03 am to GeauxTigerTM
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simply delete bull shite like this that's meant to start a religious fight
That's the liberal way of doing things
Rewrite history or just shut down freedom of speech!! Well done grasshopper
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:04 am to MastrShake
quote:This isn't a No True Scotsman argument. The Bible is clear that Christians will be known by their fruits (works). Anyone who lives their entire lives trying to kill others in the name of God has not demonstrated a saving faith in Jesus Christ according to their works. While I don't know their hearts, we can judge based on fruits.
yeah the 9/11 hijackers were faking it too, they were actually all Lutheran.
(see how easy this is?)
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:04 am to FooManChoo
More “Christian” hypocrisy. You really think he will be punished for not believing in god? That’s not what I learned from 12 years of catholic school and a lifetime of going to church. My guess is you read the Bible literally and don’t believe in dinosaurs ??. Probably think heaven is a certain size, we are the only intelligent life in the universe and we were created in 7 days. SAD!
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:07 am to DeathValley85
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Quite the bummer that an all-powerful God would set up almost 70% of all mankind for failure and eternal damnation.
Well, considering that he created the first beings, and they knew him directly. He didn't set anyone up for failure. Your parents and their parents before them did that
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Exodus 20:5
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
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Numbers 14:18
The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
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Lamentations 5:7
Our fathers have sinned, and are not; and we have borne their iniquities.
Hes pretty clear about making poor choices that will damn your children. But each man has the opportunity to be 'born again', and reject the logic of his fathers
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Ezekiel 18:19
Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:08 am to DeathValley85
quote:Actually, most of the population of this planet throughout history was not given insight into the truth. I don't know the number obviously but I would be shocked if more than 10% of all people throughout history had a saving faith in Christ.
Quick google search tells me that 31% of the world's population is Christian.
Much of the 69% were born into families who were either not religious or of a different religion.
Quite the bummer that an all-powerful God would set up almost 70% of all mankind for failure and eternal damnation.
It's one reason that the elect of God are special. It's also why Jesus told His disciples to preach the Gospel message throughout the earth. It's why Christians send missionaries across the globe to teach the message of salvation to the lost. There are a lot of people who don't believe in Jesus' saving work that need to hear about it.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:08 am to GeauxTigerTM
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And the last time I spoke with Santa Clause...he told me to tell you to stop jerking off.
In your infinite self awareness...you don't identify this as something--if someone said it to you about a belief you held--as a "hateful smear"? Thats funny right there.
*For clarity..I don't find either to be based in hate.*
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:09 am to BlackAdam
I just want to throw out that I have never seen anybody change their mind on this topic as a result of an Internet argument. What the frick are y’all doing? Let the believers believe, and let the nonbelievers not believe. It’s that simple
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 11:10 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:14 am to rbWarEagle
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What do you mean by the term “free will”? What is it?
Seriously? If you were to guess what it meant, what would you come up with?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:15 am to FooManChoo
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Actually, most of the population of this planet throughout history was not given insight into the truth.
Nobody knows what the truth is. You had people who were alive during Biblical times that were halfway around the world that believed something totally different than what Christians were teaching. These people didn't even know the other existed. In biblical times something as simple as a wheelbarrow would have been a technological marvel. Christians were confined to a small area and were totally unaware of the existing world around them.
You essentially have 5 groups of people who all believed in a different 'god' and were taught different beliefs and none of them knew the others even existed. They all can't be 'right'. The chances even one of those groups is 'right' is very slim to none.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 11:16 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:16 am to FooManChoo
quote:What happens to those people that don't get to hear about it?
There are a lot of people who don't believe in Jesus' saving work that need to hear about it.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:17 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I live in a society where if you're an open atheist you almost certainly can not even be elected city councilman, and you're going to waste my time suggesting I list the various ways in which Christianity or more generally religious faith effects my life
So basically you have no plausible evidence to support your claim. Got it!
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:19 am to NHTigerFan
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we were created in 7 days
well...6 days right?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:20 am to rbWarEagle
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texag being a douche came first.
So why respond with anger? Thats never the intelligent thing to do.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:21 am to Mr. Hangover
Agree or disagree that this is likely what Jesus looked like.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:24 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Posts 4 and 5 of this thread.
So why respond with anger and personal smears? What belief system that you adhere to makes that a rational response?
*remember..atheists are supposed to be the "rational" ones.*
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:25 am to Yak
I have trouble believing texags and dale are seperate people
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:26 am to Cruiserhog
quote:Why do you think family is such an important aspect in Christianity? It's the primary means God uses to expand His kingdom.
exactly, these religious folks on here are Christian mostly because of where they were born. that's it.
Because there are many, many people who aren't blessed to be raised in Christian homes and get to hear the Gospel, "the great commission" was given to Christians to preach the Gospel throughout the world. It's why missionaries exist.
quote:You confuse justice with hatred. It would be unloving for God to not punish sin. Imagine a judge who lets all rapists and murderers go free because he "loves" everyone.
its just utterly ridiculous to think an all loving god would damn people to an eternity of damnation.
quote:The lake of fire is a description of the place you're asking about.
btw can any of you religious folk point out where Hell is mentioned in the Bible. not shoel, not a lake of fire, but the actual place of demonic dominion called Hell. Id really like to see that passage.
Read some of these passages if you're really curious:
Matthew 10:28
Matthew 13:49-50
Matthew 25:41
Matthew 25:46
2 Thessalonians 1:9
2 Peter 2:4
Jude 1:7
Revelation 19:20
Revelation 20:13-14
Revelation 21:8
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