The 70,000 includes Hamas fighters. Not all were killed by Israel. Some are natural deaths, and some are deaths caused by Hamas. Also, not all women and children were civilians because Hamas has no standards for who they use to fight for them. Those 70,000 deaths were over a 2.5-year period.

Depending on the sources, scientific surveys show there were anywhere from 150,000 to 600,000 deaths in Iraq over a 3-year period from 2003 to 2006. Actual body counts of deaths that could be verified show there were 110,000 from 2004 to 2009. Not so different from Gaza, besides the fact that we were not attacked by Iraq first?

We were attacked by Japan first in WW2, and as a result, we killed a few hundred thousand civilians in the blink of an eye.

Why is there not as much outrage over the 30,000 deaths in Iran that took place in just a matter of weeks? I guess our moral outrage is partially dependent on how it affects our gas prices.

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Posted by TenWheelsForJesus

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Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:09 pm to FlyDownTheField83

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Just for context there were 7,000 people killed on October 7th, and Israel has ADMITTED to killing MORE THAN 70,000 men, women and children after that.

I've been supportive of Palestine's plight in the past, but Oct 7 killed whatever was left of my dwindling sympathy. No culture that can do what they did to innocent civilians at a music festival deserves any sympathy.

I don't care if Israel kills 700,000 of them anymore.

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Posted by shinerfan

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Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:16 pm to SouthEasternKaiju

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can believe Israel has done effectively nothing wrong

You sure are accepting of the deliberate murder of US sailors. The Liberty needs to come up every time Israel is mentioned. I believe the pilot and ground control 9fficer who directly discussed it being an American ship are both still alive.

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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju

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Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:50 pm to shinerfan

The discussion is primarily focused on Hamas. Current day & in reference to 10-7.

I’ve still not heard why Israel would want to attack the Liberty. Fog of war or something else, I’m not ruling everything out. But you’ll note I’m not calling them blameless.

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Posted by FlyDownTheField83

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Posted on 5/26/26 at 9:41 pm to CastleBravo

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If your neighbors constantly shot at you…

Well what if your neighbors posted snipers on the border and shot children and disabled people (Israel did that in 2018)?

What if you neighbors moved into your country and bulldozed houses (Israel has been doing this for years)?

Hamas has done terrible things, and I am not excusing any of that. However to act like Israel is blameless in this decades long murder of innocents by both sides is a terrible level of ignorance.

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Posted by Bard

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Posted on 5/27/26 at 7:53 am to High C

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I’m a little confused about the point you’re trying to make here.

My point is I don't care if Israel face-rolls countries which have been overtly and/or covertly attacking them.

Also, those who attack Israel for what they are doing in Gaza or against the Hebo's or against Iran while simultaneously also ignoring the instigations of those countries and/or calling for some subjective, bullshite "proportional response" are so biased as to not be worth taking seriously.

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