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re: SOS Ardoin to speak to St. Tammany Republican Party about purchase of new voting machines

Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by OldManInAnOldHouse
Nola
Member since Feb 2021
62 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:10 pm to
Hero, maybe that's their point. If we use pen and paper it costs in the thousands, but if we use their "voting system," it costs $100 million. Politician logic.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35883 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:12 pm to
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The first bid he wrote was rejected by Louisiana’s procurement process.


Hasn’t he already answered that question?
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I would like him to answer why Dominion is even eligible for bidding on this matter- and why, in light of our Baw DankeDanke’s well authored report, they aren’t banned as a vendor

It’s an open process. It’s out there in the market. He cant exclude anyone.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:32 pm to
Be Peaceful!!!! But be demanding and LOUD!!!!!!
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15395 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:43 pm to
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He cant exclude anyone.


Texas refused to do business with Dominion bc they couldn’t demonstrate that their machines were secure.

What exactly has Dominion done to illustrate that their machines are not accessible to hackers?

The only evaluation of these machines showed that they did, in fact - deliver flawed results.

I don’t trust Dominion, and until they provide more
of an explanation than nuhuh - I do not approve a single cent of my tax dollars or public trust invested in that shite show of a company.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35883 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 1:49 pm to
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Texas refused to do business with Dominion bc they couldn’t demonstrate that their machines were secure.

What exactly has Dominion done to illustrate that their machines are not accessible to hackers?

The only evaluation of these machines showed that they did, in fact - deliver flawed results.

I don’t trust Dominion, and until they provide more
of an explanation than nuhuh - I do not approve a single cent of my tax dollars or public trust invested in that shite show of a company.

If Dominion bids I’m sure they will have to prove their worth.
At this point the state has advertised fir bids. No one had responded, yet. No comozny has proven anything yet, snd in time I’m sure they will.
Right now people are all up in arms about nothing.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15395 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 2:09 pm to
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If Dominion bids I’m sure they will have to prove their worth.


No they won’t.

Especially if it’s somehow improper to ask questions about whether the machines are secure as part of the procurement process.

It’s a hard no from me.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 2:13 pm to
between the two of you 18 post. keep shite posting old men
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 2:14 pm to
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If Dominion bids I’m sure they will have to prove their worth.

Posted by OldManInAnOldHouse
Nola
Member since Feb 2021
62 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 2:42 pm to
Questions for Ardoin,


1. You were quoted by The Advocate as saying you didn't think there were "broad scale" issues with Dominion. Can you quantify the exact scale of issues that you believe does exist with Dominion?

2. You were quoted by The Advocate as saying that "If it were something broad scale, I think it would already be out there." Are you using biased news reporters as the basis of your opinion that there isn't (in your opinion) much "already out there"? Can you elaborate on what you mean by "already out there"?

3. Are you performing an independent investigation into the allegations against Dominion, including that their machines can connect to the internet?

4. Dominion systems were shown to be vulnerable while we watched on live TV. What is your comment on Jovan Pulitzer's live hack of a Dominion machine in Georgia in which he caught someone from China accessing voter data?

5. When I vote, can you prove to me that my vote is counted and counted for the candidate for whom I voted? How can you prove that?

6. Should we use voting software that is not open to the public, or the Secretary of State's office, for inspection?

7. Why does this voting system that will make our elections less secure cost around $100 million. Can you break that down for me?


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35883 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:10 pm to
Here is exactly what Ardoin said in an Advocate interview:
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“I’m not one to believe all commentary. I have read numerous articles about it. I’ve read Dominion’s statements,” Ardoin said. “If it were something broad scale, I think it would already be out there … None of that happened in Louisiana.”

Notice, the article edited Ardoin’s comments.

Now Ardoin isn’t investigating irregularities outside of La. Should he? Could he?

Certainly if Dominion is in the running for the award, all questions about hacking, irregularities, etc. should be asked then.

You can’t prove who you voted for now, can you? Could you ten years ago? 30 years ago?
All we can do us demand our officials investigate the machines and hold the machine companies they deal with to the highest standards. People should ask questions at the right time.

Have you read the request fig bids? I haven’t, but I’d assume they are very technical and the machines offered would have to meet specs. The time to investigate the machines offered would be after bids are submitted, and not now.

As to the 100K, that’s not what the bids are that’s what we have budgeted. I’d guess it covers equipment, maintenance, start up, etc. I have no idea what the going rate is. 100 million for 10,000 machines seems high.That’s 10K per machine.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:12 pm to
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I’m 69 and I’ve voted since I was eligible and I have never voted by paper.
Sure the machines have changed, but so have my TVs, cars and my office communications.
If you are mad about not using paper, thst fight was lost decades ago.


I didn't say there was precedent. But I will say that it is likely that machine based elections are questionable at best. And that our election corruption has been happening for more than your generation.

Let's give it a go and see. The absolute worst thing that can happen is the election is transparent and the person voted for wins.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted by OldManInAnOldHouse
Nola
Member since Feb 2021
62 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:19 pm to
I agree. Things need to be transparent and simple and provable.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68264 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:25 pm to
someone please ask why it is ok to have voting machines connected to the internet.

it said in the proposal time would be saved because the results would upload automatically
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:28 pm to
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“Additionally, voting systems are by design are meant to be used as closed systems that are not networked meaning they are not connected to the internet.”


John Poulos, Dominion CEO under oath.

Does this little white lie disqualify?
Posted by OldManInAnOldHouse
Nola
Member since Feb 2021
62 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:44 pm to
Good question. We need voting machines connected to the internet for what reason? To save an hour or two maybe at the cost of trust in the foundation of our voting system.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28788 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:50 pm to
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Cajuns!


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Wild Cajuns!


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St. Tammany




Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35883 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:57 pm to
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No they won’t.



LOL
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34001 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 3:57 pm to
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If Dominion bids I’m sure they will have to prove their worth.


You are truly one of the dumbest frickers on this site if you actually believe what you posted. Either that, or you work for Dominion, the DNC, or the CCP. Corruption runs deep in Louisiana. With the right palms greased, I would imagine that Dominion wouldn’t have to prove shite. To suggest otherwise is moronic.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35883 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 4:00 pm to
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I didn't say there was precedent. But I will say that it is likely that machine based elections are questionable at best. And that our election corruption has been happening for more than your generation.

Let's give it a go and see. The absolute worst thing that can happen is the election is transparent and the person voted for wins.

You are either naive or not with it. Did you ever hear of the old saying of stuffing the ballot box?
Do you really believe 100% paper ballots would prevent cheating?
Posted by WONTONGO
Member since Oct 2007
4295 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 4:04 pm to
Official link to the bid documents hosted on the SOS website:

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