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Sorry guys I am with weirdo Musk on this one. He is right there is too much BS in the BBB

Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:06 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46431 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:06 pm
1) Trickle down economics is bullshite, I studied it in grad school decades ago with a professor that was so conservative he was practically a NAZI and he openly scoffed at it. That’s how you get the 1% owning vast majority of everything.

2) Too much pork spending


3) adds too much to debt


4) are you going to tackle this industrial miltary complex bullshite or is just Ok they failed every audit and can’t account for 100s of trillions dollars.

5) Maybe just tweak it some and get it down.

6) It’s not worth a civil war over this shite only strengthens the libtards and Democrats

Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4021 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:07 pm to
Terrible bill, the boomers will love it because they love trump and they'll be dead.

Their grandkids will live in a fallen state.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
150805 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:07 pm to
#teamElon
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33628 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:08 pm to
It’s a horrible bill.

Omnibus bills unequivocally suck and should be outlawed by Constitutional amendment.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22781 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:09 pm to
I agree. Bill should be 2-3 sentences.
Article 1: stop spending money on shitty “movements”

Article 2: F them Taxes

Article 3: Term Limits for all
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33628 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Article 3: Term Limits for all

Amendment required for that
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4293 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:12 pm to
Everything except for point number 1
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9882 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:14 pm to
I agree w/ 2 through 6.

What exactly is "trickle down economics"? People keeping more of what they earned?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4021 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:15 pm to
Term limits is the only thing that can fix this country, but it will never happen. When we founded this country serving in congress was a duty, not a job. Once it became a job, we were doomed.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9882 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Term limits is the only thing that can fix this country, but it will never happen.


We still have a society filled w/ retarded voters. New boss will be just as bad as the old boss.

There needs to be a massive movement for poll tests....but that will probably never happen either.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33628 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Term limits is the only thing that can fix this country, but it will never happen. When we founded this country serving in congress was a duty, not a job. Once it became a job, we were doomed.

I don’t think term limits will do anything either. It does nothing to address the inherent problem, which is that once these people are elected, they are untouchable.

We need a fundamental reorganization of how Congress is elected, complete with increasing the size of the house, mixed-proportional representation (see the Bundestag), and the ability to call for early legislative elections.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
9718 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:19 pm to
Same. Except conservatives aren’t a the Nazis & a poor person never gave someone a job.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 8:22 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18213 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

so conservative he was practically a NAZI


Hoping your grad school courses didn’t teach that Nazis were conservatives.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58921 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:21 pm to
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Trickle down economics is the only kind


FIFY
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46431 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:24 pm to
We have needed term limits for decades. That and fair balanced districts too. Both sides frick the public with this
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1408 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Terrible bill, the boomers will love it because they love trump and they'll be dead.

Their grandkids will live in a fallen state.


There is nothing we can do to stop this train. The debt is never going to be addressed past lip service and empty symbolic gestures.

The US will default on the debt they owe themselves on money they printed out of thin air. It’s all a joke.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46318 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:30 pm to
The problem is that we cannot kill the baby in the hope of curing its problem.

There is an enemy out there that cannot be beaten - the clock.

The ONLY option other than passing the 'big beautiful bill is to allow the DEMocrats to win - and that would certainly turn the congress over to them in the midterms === and that would be the end of ANYTHING else getting accomplished - nation would be mired in constant impeachment hearings.

The congress is a mess - it has been being corrupted for well over 50 years now - and that regression has accelerated in the past 20.

There is NO WAY to overcome that with any legal action. The BEST we can hope for is to 'kiss our sister' and try to enlarge our margin in the congress for the next 2 years.

This piece of shite has been smoldering for most of our lives - and it CANNOT be corrected to our/your satisfaction in one fell swoop. The only alternative is turning the whole mess back over to the Democrats for the rest of eternity.

There are no magic bullets - the slog will be long and hard - inches at a time - and just HOPE we can survive long enough to get rid of the dead weights.

Demanding instant perfection is beyond gross idiocy. It is suicidal.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
9718 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Term limits is the only thing that can fix this country, but it will never happen. When we founded this country serving in congress was a duty, not a job. Once it became a job, we were doomed.

Only bloodshed will save us.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
3495 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:56 pm to
We didn't need Musk to tell us how bad this bill was. Some of you people really do need to learn to think on your own 2 feet
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7933 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 5:06 am to

The problem is the Senate …. and it will continue to be a problem

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