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re: So....recently I learned why "Remember the Alamo" is so important

Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39277 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:22 pm to
I like to mess with my hardcore Texan friends by reminding them that there must proud state memory was a moral victory…

But legit the story of the Alamo is cool and it’s impressive they hung on as long as they did
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
151008 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:29 pm to
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I like to mess with my hardcore Texan friends by reminding them that there must proud state memory was a moral victory
like Bunker Hill?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46281 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:20 am to
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They literally died for slavery, but you go ahead and call that freedom.

Too bad your mother didn't "choose" correctly.
Posted by LSU Tiger 216
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:41 am to
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but teach about MLK and omg time to ban books.


They were teaching MLK when I was a kid don’t be disingenuous.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:00 am to
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They were slaughtered - fighting to the last man.


Not true. Some of them surrendered and were executed. Also, a large group on horseback tried to flee during the battle. They were eventually caught and slaughtered.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23726 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:02 am to
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CNN's Sesame Street town hall on racism


Lol
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
79551 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:14 am to
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I mean it's mostly a lie. A bunch of Americans illegally occupied mexico, wouldn't pay taxes, and wouldn't give up slavery. So Mexico attacked.


Wow. The most wrong thing posted today.

What actually happened:

-Mexico was getting it's shite pushed in by the Comanche.

-They wanted to get the Americans to help fight them

-They granted huge land deals to Americans in Comanche areas.

-Comanches attacked new settlers

-Americans responded by annihilating Comanches

-With Comanche neutralized, Mexico wanted land back

-Passed taxes and ridiculous laws to only apply to Americans

-Outright seized some land

-Americans revolted.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
36281 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:15 am to
You’re a race baiting loser .

Revolutionary war - fought for freedom, against England. Skin color of opposition irrelevant .

War between the States - another war for independence. Skin color of other side irrelevant.

WW1, WW2, again the color of skin irrelevant .

You can fight for a cause & have it just be about the cause.


Good grief the Left are soft.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
79551 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:20 am to
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omg time to ban books.
Another Dem mad, because books teaching 8 year old boys how to give blowjobs is banned.

Sick groomer fricks
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:48 am to
I am proud 7th generation Texan. My family fought in many of the major battles of the Texas Revolution, including the Grass Fight and San Jacinto. They also occasionally fought the Comanche. But your post is far from being accurate.

The Comanche were a part of the reason that the government of the Viceroyalty of New Spain initially started the empresario system (and that the new nation of Mexico continued it after the Mexican War of Independence), but certainly not the only reason. Among other things, Texas was inhospitable, by Mexican standards. No one wanted to move there..

The Comanches did not reach the height of their power until long after the Republic of Texas was established in 1836, and they were not pacified until the 1870s. The early settlers certainly did not “annihilate” the Comanche before the Texas Revolution.

95% of the immigrants DID NOT settle on land in the Comanche region, butvrather to its southeast, though some of the land grants did extend into that region. For the most part, those northwestern colonies failed due to the Comanche.

American settlers did not revolt over purported land seizures. They revolted primarily in response to revocation of Mexico’s 1824 constitution, which replaced a federal system with a unitary state based in Mexico City. Under the old system, the Mexican states (including Coahuila y Tejas) had significant autonomy (much like US states). Under the new system, they did not (think France).

Yes, the federal system (under which the empresarios settled Texas) did allow Texas to have chattel slavery, and the new unitary system prohibited chattel slavery. Yes, that change was PART of the Texian opposition to the new unitary system, because the vast majority of immigrants were Southerners.

But Texans were originally not even seeking independence. They were seeking restoration of the 1824 constitution, along with residents of a number of other Mexican states. Those other revolts are referenced in earlier posts. A flag honoring that Constitution flew over the Alamo, along with a second flag (representing Coahuila y Tejas).




Texas did not declare her independence until after the Siege of the Alamo had already started.
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by skiboman1
Cody, Wyoming
Member since Oct 2007
460 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:39 am to
The downvote was probably for not showing a picture of the wifey.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
71002 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:49 am to
Great movie. If you havn't seen it please do

The scene with the violin at sunset!

Oh and read Davy Crockett's auto bio. You will see how much and how little politics has really changed.
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 10:04 am
Posted by Dan0fontenot
Youngsville
Member since Sep 2018
519 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:36 am to
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Your side is literally crying about history. You don't want white kids feeling offended by slavery.

So your goal in life is make sure the todays white kids are offended and made to feel guilty about something they had nothing to do with? Really?
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
16553 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:51 am to
Tejanos. Juan Seguin's volunteers.

List of Defenders of the Alamo


tejano patriots
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:05 am to
I suppose that I was not clear. You said that the Tejano‘s “hated Santa Anna.“

I think everyone recognizes that Tejanos fought for Texas and that they disliked the move to a unitary government and away from federalism.

I have never seen or read anything to the effect that these Tejanos had a particular, personal dislike for General Santa Anna.
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 11:07 am
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
6751 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:12 am to
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But you believe that official govt. story. We all know how much you repubs believe what the govt tells you.



Spoken like a true dumb-assed Democrat! Get back to the herd Sheep...
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
71002 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:39 pm to
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I have never seen or read anything to the effect that these Tejanos had a particular, personal dislike for General Santa Anna.


But did you ever think they might?
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
7564 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:03 am to
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You’re a race baiting loser .


Yes he is. Considering, unless Santa Ana had thousands of Mestizo's in his army, they were probably not far removed from Spain. European Spanish are white people.

This idiot doesn't realize or care that Mexico is still ruled by the light skinned Spanish descendants. How could it be about race?

Take the CRT BS out of here. We accept our country is not perfect, but we also know that no other country is either and we still represent Freedom throughout the World. Why else would thousands of people, regardless of skin color be literally dying to get here?

Slavery is no excuse unless you include the tribes capturing and selling their own race to the slave traders. Admit that and accept that and then we can begin to have a discussion on the evils of Slavery AND Indentured Servanthood.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6287 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:02 am to
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Wow. The most wrong thing posted today.

What actually happened:

-Mexico was getting it's shite pushed in by the Comanche.

-They wanted to get the Americans to help fight them

-They granted huge land deals to Americans in Comanche areas.

-Comanches attacked new settlers

-Americans responded by annihilating Comanches

-With Comanche neutralized, Mexico wanted land back

-Passed taxes and ridiculous laws to only apply to Americans

-Outright seized some land

-Americans revolted.


Good job, but Mexico had also permitted slavery in Texas to get Americans to move there, so to say Santa Ana was there to end slavery is a lie.
Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1662 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:06 am to
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Don't know what I was really expecting


I was expecting a basement, especially if it held stolen bikes. Do you have any idea how much a kid from Louisiana was looking forward to seeing a basement for the first time?

Sadly, there was no basement, but there was a lesson to fight for freedom no matter what.
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