re: Something Very Odd With The Florida COVID Numbers.

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True. What else could it be.

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It could be a paradigm change d/t the 21 free mAb OPT Treatment Centers. It could be someone playing with the numbers.

But if it was d/t a population sample difference (Return to school kids infected, a disproportionate dearth of CV19-naive patients, etc), the recent death surge upslope would be flatter, and there would still be a lag to case count.

It also wouldn’t just be in Florida.

You are not recorded as a "case" unless you have a positive result from a test. You would get a test if you felt ill. As cases increase, some people are dying before someone that was infected at the same time feels sick enough to trigger a test. This is opposed to the normal progression of people being infected and being treated with the treatment failing after a longer illness.

More people getting tested for minimal symptoms that they had quit panicking about 5-6 months ago. Vast majority of our test still negative. Deaths and hospitalizations down locally, but testing is through roof. And school has started back. One kid test postive. 500 people get tested. More young, healthy people with essentially a zero percent mortality rate.

And one death will send a thousand people to get tested. I've got frickers that are getting tested twice a week. Plus home test and other shite. Positives wanting rechecks every mf'ing day. They'll hit every urgent care and shite bag doctors office in the area to get their nose fricked for COVID. May be the new erogenous zone.

You’re missing the point. Case rate stayed high while deaths dropped early. Less deadly virus would still have deaths lagging, just less of them.

And this phenomenon is entirely unique to Florida. Looks like data manipulation.

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Perhaps there is a logical explanation (other than data manipulation) for the anomaly, but I'm not seeing it. What I am seeing is every media outlet in the state putting the daily FL CV19 case numbers on full-blast broadcast volume to get at DeSantis.

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Wow, really good catch. I say that with all sincerity, because it’s not necessarily something that would jump out in the context of how most of these stats are reported to the public, even though it really IS quite anomalous when you really examine it relative to historical data and data across other states. So much so, honestly, that it’s a little bit staggering.

I think you’re right. While it’s possible there’s some obscure but perfectly logical explanation that will reveal itself over time, based on the relatively significant volume of information we have now, it looks like something is very … off.

Is there available data showing number of tests administered?

Someone mentioned school having started (in July?), which might account for the increase in cases and deaths, but the fact that the cases seems overly elevated (or exaggerated) might be a function of excessive testing now that school is underway. For example, if you want to go to the high school football game and aren't vaxxed, show up with a negative test from the last day or so. Locally applied rules like this might double the amount of testing of people who would otherwise avoid testing in some areas and keep cases high for people who are barely ill and would've flown under the radar before.

I would think the most accurate picture would be to look at number of tests, # of positives, # of hospitalized (specifically for covid and not showing up for a broken leg unvaxxed and ending up testing covid positive), and deaths.

It would also perhaps be worthwhile to see testing methods. I'm not a medical professional, but am under the impression there are two testing methods: rapid and PCR. What are the percentages of each and has there been a change in use? (Maybe LA relies on one type more than FL) Is one type more prone to errors?

On the conspiratorial end, other people have suggested that the PCR test sensitivity can be easily changed (noted in terms like 27x vs 30x or 40x...something like that) and there has been talk of testing vaxxed vs unvaxxed at different sensitivities. If there's any truth in the ease of changing the testing sensitivity, then the FDA or CDC, etc. could conceivably dictate changes that create more positive results, even though other data (like deaths) show a better picture. I am not saying this happened, but it would be silly to say the government wouldn't do something like this if it gave them an advantage. But this is not the thread to speculate on that, except to confirm testing standards are consistent across time, regions and all demographics.

With Covid, never rule out D. All the above.

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My guess it is because it is mostly children getting it and they are very unlikely to die.

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This. Now that school is back in session tons of kids are getting it.