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re: Some restaurants embrace putting health care surcharges on diners' checks

Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:56 am to
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:56 am to
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We see this kind of stuff all the time on our utility bills. They are just called something else. Shall we deduct those from the payment as well


Do you routinely tip your utility company?
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:58 am to
Say a patron leaves a cash tip, as opposed to leaving a tip on their credit card, you honestly think waiters/waitresses are reporting the cash tip as income to the IRS? That would be a strong NO.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:02 am to
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“Our guests have mostly been not only accepting, but excited about the practice,” Heard told Fox News. “Since January 1 we have had less than five guests ask to have the fee removed.”
Well this is a retarded way to measure whether or not a business policy is customer compatible.

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What a new business concept... pass along liberal ideas to the end user to pay for.

Hey. Free enterprise. Let em do it

But, the world is littered with companies trying to do similar things with a near 100% fail rate
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:04 am to
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I’ll bet most of the diners that patronize that
place don’t give much of a shite.



Probably true

But restaurants are thin margin businesses.

And you can bet that just as the word implies, "most" means that some DO give a shite and those will be former customers.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56302 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:04 am to
I have no problem with it. I think it is great to know what benefits cost. Should be standard practice.

Think if our gas receipt came out with where our money was going.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 9:06 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:05 am to
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Say a patron leaves a cash tip, as opposed to leaving a tip on their credit card, you honestly think waiters/waitresses are reporting the cash tip as income to the IRS? That would be a strong NO.


That’s my point. They are not paying their fair share of taxes so why should I supplement their insurance?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11110 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:05 am to
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Management is guilt tripping. Most will pay before “feeling embarrassed”.


How the left is winning. Preying upon the morals and politeness of the conservatives.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:06 am to
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We see this kind of stuff all the time on our utility bills. They are just called something else. Shall we deduct those from the payment as well? How would that work out?

Um, if you can't determine the difference between a tip and an electric bill, you probably aren't qualified to be in this thread
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:08 am to
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How the left is winning. Preying upon the morals and politeness of the conservatives.

Just because a person pays it that day rather than make a deal out of it doesn't mean they'll be back to do it again
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56517 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:09 am to
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Some restaurants embrace putting health care surcharges on diners' checks



Why isn't the restaurant offering healthcare and PTO on its own without these fees?

As someone who believes that all people should have healthcare paid for by others (not really), I'm offended that the restaurant isn't taking care of its employees already.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11110 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:18 am to
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Whats the big deal? That cost is being passed on to the customer anyway, they just chose to show it.


The big deal is that they are showing it as optional, when they put it on your bill without asking, and now you have to be rude enough to have it removed, and you have to wait and be inconvenienced while they remove it, and we are supposed to believe these people when they say 97% of the people were happy to see it on their bill.

It's a precursor for an EXTRA tax to cover INSURANCE.
Not healthcare, INSURANCE.

These are the same phuqs that don't want you to have YOUR social security tax RETURNED TO YOU when you need it.

What do you think will become of this money after it gets in the governments hands????
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20842 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:27 am to
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Even better the state of Texas/City of Austin is getting a cut, the 3% surcharge seems to be taxed as it is added to the bill pre sales tax.


What is your point? I think most on here would agree that the restaurant should just increase their prices 3% if they want to provide health care. That would be taxed the same way.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140477 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:30 am to
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are people getting bent out if shape about this? 


Who is getting bent out of shape?
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:46 am to
I'd rather they raise the menu price rather than virtue signal. As a customer, I shouldn't and don't want to think about such shite when eating out. Provide good food at a fair price in a clean environment, then you will make enough money to pay your employees a fair wage, then I won't have to hear about your internal business problems that I couldn't care less about.
Posted by FrenchToast
The French Kitchen
Member since Jan 2016
1810 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:48 am to
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Um, if you can't determine the difference between a tip and an electric bill, you probably aren't qualified to be in this thread




What part of the tip line kit this "menu item" listed?

S&WB and Entergy, among many other companies, justify adding surcharges on your bill. Remember post-Katrina Entergy and S&WB handlings? Not enough time in the day to list the countless examples out there...
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 10:45 am
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11110 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:58 am to
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Remember post-Katrina Entergy and S&WB handlings? Not enough time in the day t list the countless examples out there.


Remember the citizens fair insurance tax? First it passed with 100% returned to you, then it was 70%, now it's 25%

Give them more money, they are good at keeping it.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:08 am to
No surprise. It’s shitty Austin
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28813 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:19 am to
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They aren't offering health insurance to their employees, they are guilting their customers into offering it.




No they are not. What you said makes no sense. How are they guilting their customers in to paying for insurance?

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I bet if they put the insurance on the menu like it was another item they offered, no one would buy it.


What the hell? This doesn't make sense either. So you don't patronize businesses that offer their employees health insurance.

Every Server, dishwasher, cook ect... that has insurance through their employer is one less person on medicaid. How can you not see that?

If you don't like what they are doing don't go eat there. It's that simple.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28813 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:29 am to
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I have no problem with it.


I don't either.

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I think it is great to know what benefits cost.

Adding a surcharge for insurance on the bill will not tell you this.

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Should be standard practice.

Meh

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Think if our gas receipt came out with where our money was going.


Some places do this already do this. At least they break down actual cost and taxes.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56302 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:12 am to
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Adding a surcharge for insurance on the bill will not tell you this.

they don’t tell you the cost. It they are a lot of people that support benefits for all that don’t associate it w higher costs for everyone.

Seeing it seperate versus hidden in the costs may register for some.
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