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re: So... what if it happens tomorrow?
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:53 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:53 pm to Dr RC
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We aren't a true democracy so it wouldn't be getting overturned. The electors are allowed to vote for whoever they want. They are not bound by what voters did in their state. It was purposely set up that way
The left is so unhinged that they really believe the electoral college could vote Hilary in and everyone would just accept it go home and be happy. The Democratic party would cease to exist and there would be chaos in the streets.
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:56 pm to bencoleman
We are on the verge of an epic power grab by the Left. They are going to influence the electors to put Hillary in the White House. The Globalists won't have it any other way.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:57 pm to BaddestAndvari
quote:Yes. And in a democracy, Hillary wins. But let's keep it simple as not to confuse the board.
democracy is overturned?
Don't we live in a republic,
quote:Yeah, I always believed plumbing college voting was a better way to go.
the very idea of the electrical college voting
quote:Why so angry? Does it really matter which establishment candidate is put in the White House?
Seriously, frick all of you
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:58 pm to bencoleman
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The left is so unhinged that they really believe the electoral college could vote Hilary in and everyone would just accept it go home and be happy. The Democratic party would cease to exist and there would be chaos in the streets.
This is what I dont get.
We watched riots in Portland because the system that was known going in-IE 270 electoral votes NOT the popular vote happened. Its not like it hasnt happened before and had actually happened very recently.
Faithless electors has NEVER happened before. I get the theory and understand their theoretical argument they have but every single time when they get asked about this potentially causing unrest they act like its some asinine never gonna happen idea.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:58 pm to Dr RC
quote:
We aren't a true democracy so it wouldn't be getting overturned. The electors are allowed to vote for whoever they want. They are not bound by what voters did in their state. It was purposely set up that way.
this
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:58 pm to Zach
quote:You going to give those to someone who knows how to use them properly?
Damn straight. I'm gonna go into Academy Sports in Bossier City and steal 100 Pro VI golf balls
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:58 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I believe 29 states have laws saying otherwise and the rest have oaths to uphold the will of the people of that state.
True but those have been pretty much never enacted when faithless electors occur.
LINK
Moreover
quote:
The constitutionality of state pledge laws was confirmed by the Supreme Court in 1952 in Ray v. Blair in a 5–2 vote. The court ruled states have the right to require electors to pledge to vote for the candidate whom their party supports, and the right to remove potential electors who refuse to pledge prior to the election. The court also wrote:quote:
However, even if such promises of candidates for the electoral college are legally unenforceable because violative of an assumed constitutional freedom of the elector under the Constitution, Art. II, § 1, to vote as he may choose in the electoral college, it would not follow that the requirement of a pledge in the primary is unconstitutional (emphasis added).
The ruling only held that requiring a pledge, not a vote, was constitutional and Justice Jackson, joined by Justice Douglas, wrote in his dissent, "no one faithful to our history can deny that the plan originally contemplated what is implicit in its text – that electors would be free agents, to exercise an independent and nonpartisan judgment as to the men best qualified for the Nation's highest offices." More recent legal scholars believe "a state law that would thwart a federal elector’s discretion at an extraordinary time when it reasonably must be exercised would clearly violate Article II and the Twelfth Amendment."
The Supreme Court has never ruled on the constitutionality of state laws punishing electors for actually casting a faithless vote.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:59 pm to BaddestAndvari
quote:You are so mad right now.
Seriously, frick all of you
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:00 pm to bencoleman
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The left is so unhinged that they really believe the electoral college could vote Hilary in and everyone would just accept it go home and be happy. The Democratic party would cease to exist and there would be chaos in the streets.
I don't think very many people actually think that.
It's just that it can happen and if it did it would be b/c the electoral college gives electors that power.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:01 pm to OMLandshark
Find the electors that turned on the will of the people and exact the people's justice upon them.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:02 pm to OMLandshark
Then we go to war...
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:03 pm to fr33manator
I would worry about my life if I were an elector that defected and HRC was elected.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:03 pm to fr33manator
We can't have vigilante justice. That is banana republic justice. But I think we can all see that we live in a sophisticated banana republic. So maybe that is where we have devolved to now.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:07 pm to Dr RC
quote:
quote:
The left is so unhinged that they really believe the electoral college could vote Hilary in and everyone would just accept it go home and be happy. The Democratic party would cease to exist and there would be chaos in the streets.
I don't think very many people actually think that.
It's just that it can happen and if it did it would be b/c the electoral college gives electors that power.
You say that but one of the Washington state elector and purveyors of the faithless electors was interviewed on this very subject and seemed shocked that one could suggest that it would promote unrest
Here
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:08 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Social chaos, violence and blood in the streets. A feeling of revolution in the air. A great purge on the way.
I'm sure
The bunch of cucks on here won't do shite
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:08 pm to MrCarton
Remember there are Republican or Democrat electors sent by each state. Ex in case of Louisiana we send 6 electors picked by Republicans since they won our state. Same for Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania etc.. Those states where the democrats won they send Democrat electors.
In other words, Republican electors - 37 - would have to defect. Even if they did they wouldn't vote for Clinton more than likely.
In other words, Republican electors - 37 - would have to defect. Even if they did they wouldn't vote for Clinton more than likely.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:11 pm to bmy
quote:
I'm sure
The bunch of cucks on here won't do shi
People rioted in Portland under the banner of winning the popular vote but losing the electoral college. Something that was widely known could happen going in and happened 2 presidents ago.
I guess you just think that Republicans are much smarter and civilized than Democrats?
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:26 pm to OMLandshark
This election (much more than that of 2000) is demonstrating how petulant and immature the Left truly is. It is embarrassing.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:33 pm to Adam Banks
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It will go to the House who will put in Donald Trump
Ummm
No
That is what happens in the event no one gets 270 votes.
Whoever gets 270 tomorrow, Clinton or Trump, gets the presidency.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:34 pm to Gr8t8s
kind of this. I bet several thousand men and women unarmed could march straight into DC and drag the scum bag traitors out unharmed. I could be wrong, but I don't see the police, any govt agency or military branch just open firing on Americans over this BS. If not, plan B...we start looting, that seems to work.
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