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re: So I took my very liberal lawyer Aunt to the SC vs Auburn women's game tonight

Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:20 am to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:20 am to
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Only on the poli board


Have you been to the OT?


I liked the story. Old people are cool.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
11150 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:26 am to
Is the reason you don't talk to your daughter due to political beliefs?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:38 am to
No one should be surprised about the ruling. Back around 2011, the 9th had five straight decisions overturned unanimously by the SCOTUS. Five.

They are the most outright partisan court in the land and are proud of the fact.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22947 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:40 am to
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Long story short ... she flat out told me tonight, this country is in a mess when the 9th Circuit Court, no matter how much she hates Trump ... the country is in real mess, in real danger, when the 9th Circuit Court gets one like this so blatantly wrong.
Thanks. I appreciate your account of what your aunt said.

And no, it was not too long. It saddens me to see some people's ability to focus on something like this, be it due to intolerance or short attention spans or partisan dumbness or attention deficit disorders or drunkenness or a deluded sense of coolness. Whatever.

Your aunt sounds like a principled lady. How fortunate for you to have time to spend with her in conversation. I love the part about your Sonic tradition, too.

Thanks again.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23398 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:48 am to
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My oldest daughter took after her and is now a UCB law grad living in California with her idiot producer husband ... we don't talk anymore.

that's really sad man. you should talk to your daughter.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:58 am to
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because I am a deplorable in my 60s
Me too. I would love to meet the Ole Gal..... wisdom from folks of her kind is a rare find.
Cool story
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:15 am to
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Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:17 am to
Fake news!
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 7:14 am to
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took all of 3 minutes to read


It took you 3 minutes to read that?

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Auburn Fan


Oh...
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 7:39 am to
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You may have bigger issues you should be dealing with rather than this decision which is beyond your control and quite frankly has zero real impact on your life.


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Anyways, long story long.


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pics?


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Then tell a boring story about something that ends up with you qualifying your fears and your bug out shelter.


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Admin needs to delete this. You basically just doxxed yourself if she's as well known as you say


Brought to you by the party of "NO"

A perfect example of how the left conducts itself,
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20594 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:24 am to
take her as many basketball games as she wants. just be too busy to take her to the polls.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:29 am to
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Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59236 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:33 am to
I downvoted because of the liberal woman lawyer thing
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20028 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:39 am to
Is your aunt's name Barbara?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:49 am to
It's a good story. Your aunt sounds like a character and I'm glad you have a good relationship despite differences.

But this "first year law student could get it right" stuff is just ridiculous IMO.

Listen, I'm largely a textualist, so I agree with the majority of this board on the majority of constitutional interpretation questions. But as an initial matter, this goes pretty far beyond a simple matter of "plain meaning" or whatever characterizations are frequently thrown around on this forum.

Originalism or textualism, can be, and are, used by libertarians to advocate against immigration law as a whole. The same generalized theories of statutory/constitutional interpretation (originalism/textualism) can provide different results based on the strain of reasoning within that theory. So as a very initial matter, people tend to overlook that even textualist heroes (Scalia) avoided strict constructionism and made exceptions to avoid absurd results. Scalia advocates for textual interpretation construed "reasonably," and that is inherently subjective.

The second problem is that the status quo simply isn't what those of us with reserved ideas about statutory interpretation wish it to be. Either a majority or significant minority of judges do not abide by a Scalia-like textualist approach (or originalism or some other little-c conservative theory). Likely a large majority of all legal scholars would advocate for something other than originalism or textualism. I don't like that, but it's true.

So while we can say "It's simple" and sometimes really believe that, it just doesn't matter. The truth is that textualists and originalists have contributed significantly to judicial activism in this country. There is simply no way to address the the host of issues we ask our federal courts to address based on relatively brief writings from 230 years ago without that being the case.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31417 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:50 am to
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I try to keep my identity a complete mystery

I would too if I were you.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 8:54 am
Posted by DirtyMike
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2014
1175 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:55 am to
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11169 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:56 am to
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qualifying your fears


You say that as if fear is a bad thing. It's common sense, fear is healthy when logically derived. Americans do not want any part of what is occurring in Germany and the EU.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:58 am to
She seemed to be more a a women's rights proponent then a civil rights proponent. I know they are connected to a degree but the way you describe it put her contribution to both on kind of on equal footing. I was expecting to read about all her marches and court battles during the era of segregation. Nonetheless, she surely has been a prominent figure in SC for a very long time. Fascinating that she sells real estate at her age. Very admirable that she just refuses to allo age to keep her from leading an active life. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13931 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:06 am to
So you can chow down at sonic and Live a long healthy life, I like it
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 9:09 am
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