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re: Since H1B is a hot topic, here's why would should oppose all forms of immigration
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:15 am to POTUS2024
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:15 am to POTUS2024
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Fair point but not for this discussion. We are talking about the US market, not a global market.
There is no US market (sustainable) without imports and exports.
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:15 am to burger bearcat
You cannot be against slavery of all forms and be for illegal immigration or immigration that takes out steps to understand our culture. There's a reason why in other countries it can just under a decade to become a citizen.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:16 am to HagaDaga
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Indians are socialist minded.
Some. Bengal was an actual communist enclave for decades.
Competitive people arent socialists. Thats what we need to bring in.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:16 am to goldennugget
That sucks, I don't like it, but part of me thinks that is raw, naked capitalism.
This is going to be a fascinating battle in MAGA world. Maybe it was 8D chess by the orange man to introduce the issue?
This is going to be a fascinating battle in MAGA world. Maybe it was 8D chess by the orange man to introduce the issue?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:19 am to burger bearcat
Without Indian scientists we wouldnt have airplanes, rockets, submarines, gone to the moon, figured out the periodic table, harnessed radiation for it’s energy, created modern computing via electrical engineering. Stupid neanderthal whites would just be beating each other with sticks still. 
Fixing public education would help us more than importing more people.
Fixing public education would help us more than importing more people.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:23 am to HagaDaga
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Mind if I ask what your expertise is, and type of work you were looking for?
I'm in the data science/machine learning space. Currently I am an ML Engineer for a big company you all have heard of.
Got laid off at the end of 2020 as my job was offshored. Took me 6 months to find a job. Finally got hired.
Got laid off from that one in Spring 2023, again my job was offshored. 3 month job search before I got hired again.
For both of those job searches, the process was extremely frustrating. I'd always knock it out of the park in my interviews with the Americans I would talk to, they loved me and gladly moved me along in the process, but I would always run into an Indian later in the hiring process who would be extremely hostile, combative, and seek to disqualify me from the jump and I'd get rejected. As if the interviews with those people were purposely set up for me to fail. The worst would be panel interviews with multiple Indians. I'd get ganged up on bad. I'd get LinkedIn requests and messages from the Americans I interviewed with before the hostile Indians and they'd be totally dumbfounded how I got rejected since they thought I was a slam dunk candidate.
I could write a book about the horror stories of these interviews I did. I did several before I wised up. It got to the point where I would withdraw from an interview process if I saw the next person I'd be interviewing with was an Indian because not once have I ever moved onto the next stage of a hiring process after talking to an Indian. Not once.
Where I ended up getting hired in both 2021 and 2023, as well as my current job in 2024, the one common denominator was that I didn't interview with an Indian in any of those 3 processes.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:23 am to Old Money
Without Indians we wouldn’t have won all the wars we’ve won!
Speaking of that, someone tell me the number of non white or black members of the armed services? Some Hispanics? ETA the Native American Indians have a long tradition of military service, further proving my point
If you aren’t willing to die for something, you aren’t a real citizen, just an opportunist.
Citizenship used to mean something.
Speaking of that, someone tell me the number of non white or black members of the armed services? Some Hispanics? ETA the Native American Indians have a long tradition of military service, further proving my point
If you aren’t willing to die for something, you aren’t a real citizen, just an opportunist.
Citizenship used to mean something.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:25 am to boomtown143
For the people here who say my argument is "Xenophobic"...I'd be perfectly fine skimming off the top off the top South Koreans and Singaporeans. And I'd be ok with them dragging their hot sisters along with them.
As I said in other threads, the h1b abuse is so bad multiple cities have been overtaken by Indians in less than a 15yr period. That's not normal and an abusive issue that needs to get fixed.
As I said in other threads, the h1b abuse is so bad multiple cities have been overtaken by Indians in less than a 15yr period. That's not normal and an abusive issue that needs to get fixed.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah that’s incorrect completely.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Competitive people arent socialists. Thats what we need to bring in.
But the point is that's not what we are bringing in. Their type of competition isn't like ours here. Their caste system beliefs doesn't allow it. They bring their socialist/communist non-American values/mindset with them. In droves.
The small trickle is key. The Kash and Viveck types were brought up in our competitive mindset, but they were forced to assimilate since they were very few. Now they are living in their New New Delhi's so not the same.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:47 am to HagaDaga
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But the point is that's not what we are bringing in
Some have done very well for themselves, so we are bringing in some.
I dont care what country someone comes from, we need more completion in this country to drive people to excellence.
Competition leading to excellence is a conservative staple.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:50 am to HagaDaga
Enclaves - both geographic and social, continue to be a major issue on this front.
Although in reality step one is just getting through on the mindset - we are under no obligation to open our doors to the world unless it's in our overall interest. We just don't have to do it and it's not a moral fault if we decide to slow/stop it.
Although in reality step one is just getting through on the mindset - we are under no obligation to open our doors to the world unless it's in our overall interest. We just don't have to do it and it's not a moral fault if we decide to slow/stop it.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
Just a quick.factoid.
Of all ethnic Groups In America, the highest avg income belongs to ?
No, not Jews.
Not Caucs or.Japanese, Koreans or Chinese.
Not blacks or.hissssspanica.
The answer is Indians. Not Appacheee or Sue. Asian Indians. Hidus.
Of all ethnic Groups In America, the highest avg income belongs to ?
No, not Jews.
Not Caucs or.Japanese, Koreans or Chinese.
Not blacks or.hissssspanica.
The answer is Indians. Not Appacheee or Sue. Asian Indians. Hidus.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 9:52 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:57 am to goldennugget
Glad to hear you got something and hope you are enjoying your new home 
I hope you told the folks following up with you that the Indians were the blockade. Ask if an Indian was hired for the spot too.
I have an uncle who has worked for a tech company for a very long time as a dedicated national strategic accts customer support role, and he says he can definitely notice the difference. Dreads getting on calls when a lead engineer on the call is Indian. He knows his customers won't understand them and he won't either to clear up the issue, so it's a waste of time. So he started to get with the product managers, and told them they need to figure out how to translate on calls cause it gets frustrating and pointless. He misses the days of the cocky prick American engineering nerd with no social skills.
They'd knock out calls then in over half the time back then.
I hope you told the folks following up with you that the Indians were the blockade. Ask if an Indian was hired for the spot too.
I have an uncle who has worked for a tech company for a very long time as a dedicated national strategic accts customer support role, and he says he can definitely notice the difference. Dreads getting on calls when a lead engineer on the call is Indian. He knows his customers won't understand them and he won't either to clear up the issue, so it's a waste of time. So he started to get with the product managers, and told them they need to figure out how to translate on calls cause it gets frustrating and pointless. He misses the days of the cocky prick American engineering nerd with no social skills.
They'd knock out calls then in over half the time back then. 
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:59 am to burger bearcat
Just going to quote a post on X.
“Americans are sick and tired of feeling like they are in a third-world country every time they go anywhere in public. The people pushing for more immigration—of any kind—do not have to deal with the daily reality of seeing the place you grew up in turn into an unrecognizable third-world shite hole overnight.”
“Americans are sick and tired of feeling like they are in a third-world country every time they go anywhere in public. The people pushing for more immigration—of any kind—do not have to deal with the daily reality of seeing the place you grew up in turn into an unrecognizable third-world shite hole overnight.”
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:00 am to RiverCityTider
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Just a quick.factoid.
Of all ethnic Groups In America, the highest avg income belongs to ?
No, not Jews.
Not Caucs or.Japanese, Koreans or Chinese.
Not blacks or.hissssspanica.
The answer is Indians. Not Appacheee or Sue. Asian Indians. Hidus.
Stats don't tell the whole story applies here.
When you have selective immigration for high paying engineering roles, and you are filling those roles with educated foreigners, ofc smaller immigrant groups that you are hand selecting will dominate the charts.
Whites have to be the ditch diggers and the engineers. That puts us at the average. You know, we have to do the actual jobs in the country unlike high paid foreigners who can brag about how much more they earn than your average american.
And like a poster above said, all americans -- not just whites. Using us as the bar since thats how this all started.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:05 am to ronricks
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Trump will deport a small number of criminal Illegals and then tell his sycophants he had deported 5 million and they will believe him.
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Posted by ronricks
2/23/24 at 4:05 pm to RobbBobb
It is sad you think Trump is going to be reelected. How gullible can you be?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:07 am to Radio One
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“Americans are sick and tired of feeling like they are in a third-world country every time they go anywhere in public. The people pushing for more immigration—of any kind—do not have to deal with the daily reality of seeing the place you grew up in turn into an unrecognizable third-world shite hole overnight.”
Scream it from the rooftops
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:07 am to RiverCityTider
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Just a quick.factoid.
Of all ethnic Groups In America, the highest avg income belongs to ?
No, not Jews.
Not Caucs or.Japanese, Koreans or Chinese.
Not blacks or.hissssspanica.
The answer is Indians. Not Appacheee or Sue. Asian Indians. Hidus.
This is the point of this conversation. They are being brought in to take the white collar jobs at low pay. This is no different than the compliant we've had for decades about unskilled Latino illegals taking/lowering the unskilled positions/pay.
As I've said before in these threads, American born Indians/Asians will agree with the need to stop this abuse sooner than later as it'll hurt them too eventually. Their kids not getting into schools because foreigners, even their own kind, are taking positions. They'll also be more expensive than the H1Bs.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This progressivism is domestic, not imported.
Assuming progressivism is a negative, do you think high volume immigration is part of the solution?
FTR, I don't and pretty much agree with the OP. When assimilation is small scale and low rate, immigrants are compelled to assimilate. When immigration is high volume, they have no need to assimilate. Rather, they form their own comminuties, etc. They leech off America.
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