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re: SIAP: Trans killer blamed his mom and weed.

Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:00 am to
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:00 am to
That's the point. Marijuana didnt make him do this being psychotic did. Marijuana doesn't make you blackout and do things that ends up in the death of people. Can't say the same for alcohol.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:01 am to
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I've never even heard of someone doing anything close to what this psycho troon did.


You just did. This happened. Now you’ve heard about it.

Additionally, Gabby Giffords shooter, the Marjorie Stoneman shooter, the Aurora movie shooter, the Pulse nightclub shooter, and the First Baptist shooter in Sutherland Springs were all marijuana users.

And contrary to the narrative of pot smokers being cool, mellow people, high dosage users can get the opposite effect.
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“People who have taken large doses of the drug may experience an acute psychosis, which includes hallucinations, delusions, and a loss of the sense of personal identity,” the National Institutes of Health notes.

Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5303 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:01 am to
Does the old weed from, say, the 1990s still exist? Or is it all much stronger? I haven't touched it since probably the early 90s.
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:01 am to
Damn I was just about to light a joint. I guess I won’t now :/
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125550 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:02 am to
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being psychotic did


Oof.
Marijuana can and does contribute to psychosis.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:05 am to
The belief that weed is harmless, especially in the era of proliferation of legal weed, is very ignorant and harmful.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:05 am to
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This does not establish your conclusion. At all.

It doesn’t prove it, but it seems to point to it very strongly.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:06 am to
It’s all fun and games until you’re scromiting in the ER.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5989 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:07 am to
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The Constitution is written on paper made from marijuana
parchment paper is hemp?
Weed 50+ years is no where near today's weed. Hemp and weed are not the same, either. If our Founding Fathers saw no issues with smoking weed it would have been a normal thing since then, so never got out of the gate to reach Prohibition.

Not sure why weedsters thinks that just saying " well alcohol is worse" is an intellectual argument. They are both bad, different, and should be handled differently. I've said that in a prior post, so stop deflecting. Focus on weed, instead of trying to hide behind another non related issue.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:08 am to
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Additionally, Gabby Giffords shooter, the Marjorie Stoneman shooter, the Aurora movie shooter, the Pulse nightclub shooter, and the First Baptist shooter in Sutherland Springs were all marijuana users.


Ehhh. Millions of Americans use marijuana though. I’m not sure this is a fair cause and effect statement. These people were also all mentally ill and gobbling up anti-depressants and psychotropics too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:08 am to
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It doesn’t prove it, but it seems to point to it very strongly.


It may add a little bit to that side, but the mass of weight is still strongly on this starting long before the trans stuff was even a thing with him.

We have like 2 tons on the "psychosis from before trans" on one side and now like 10 lbs on the "the trans stuff caused this" side.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52342 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:09 am to
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The Constitution is written on paper made from marijuana. A majority of the founding fathers used marijuana.

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A hoax or urban legend states that the United States Constitution was originally written on hemp paper. According to National Constitution Center, this is not true, as the document was written on parchment.[1]

No it wasn’t, LOL
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:09 am to
Keep posting this and insisting you are right! It’s working!
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5989 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:09 am to
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Does the old weed from, say, the 1990s still exist? Or is it all much stronger? I haven't touched it since probably the early 90s.

This would be like partying on old OK 3.2 beer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:09 am to
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It’s all fun and games until you’re scromiting in the ER.


I was speaking more specifically about the long-term psychological impact.

As a person who's smoked a lot of weed (and the first time we made brownies made them way too strong and ate way too many of them and became catatonic for almost a day), I can't go as far as the ER stuff
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2216 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:10 am to
Medical Marijuana is both. You can get it where it is too strong but it still doesn't make people I've been around psychotic. They get anxious but then they eat and fall asleep. They should really cap the strength of it to around 20 to 30 percent thc. They have it in that range though. You can abuse either one just marijuana doesn't make you blackout and not remember what you did.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43145 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:10 am to
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Don’t let your kids smoke weed or change gender until they are like seventeen


We actually have that on the wall above our bed.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:11 am to
My wife has this in pretty scrolled cursive on the wall in our day room
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125550 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:12 am to
Of course.

But if pot is really mellowing people out, then it should’ve helped these cats.

It was also a specific contradiction to “I’ve never heard of no pot smokers shooting up places.”
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:13 am to
I think it’s certainly not going to have that effect on heavily medicated, psychotic people.
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