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re: Should we really be spending 2/3 of federal spending on the old and sick?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:10 am to tigerdude3232
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:10 am to tigerdude3232
I understand we will be deporting them and separating the husbands from their wives during the deportation process. End result here is that the Men's life expectancy is expected to grow while the women's will be cut in half due to the women all complaining about each other to each other instead of to their husbands.
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:10 am to Sidicous
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Should we really be spending so much every year on preserving life instead of advancing it? Why do the poor, sick, and old get such a large chunk of the pie?
So you're saying we should be spending this on the illegals being trafficked into the country instead?
That we should let the elderly and sick die in order to provide for non citizens abducted and sold into the nation?
Where in the frick did you read that?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:11 am to themunch
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Save the illegal families but keep aborting American babies and kill the ones that brought this country to you.
I am sixty five, how long do I have left?
As long as you can support yourself and continue to contribute and not leach off society around you??
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:13 am to Homesick Tiger
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However, because I haven’t had surgery, does this somehow prevent me from acknowledging the failures of a system that makes promise after promise only to continually fail?
I directly responded to your "we'll never get our money back" statement. What you said can basically be used as an argument against car insurance, homeowner's insurance, basically any kind of insurance. How much of that do we pay premiums for but yet ever get our money back? Do you complain about that?
Are we talking about private insurance we select or government forced taxes to allocate funds to the old and sick?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:13 am to Yak
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I am sixty five, how long do I have left?
You are around my father's age, and I want to keep him around as long as possible
Then you and your family can all start a fund called "Dad's life support"
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:19 am to tigerdude3232
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Why do the poor, sick, and old get such a large chunk of the pie?
I say let them expire, but the number of posters here will drop by half.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:19 am to tigerdude3232
quote:Likewise.
Then you and your family can all start a fund called "Dad's life support"
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:20 am to tigerdude3232
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tigerdude3232
You should really be directing your anger towards the medical profession with their over-priced services, not the people requiring them. Just yesterday my brother told me his wife just had to go on a new type antibiotic drug. For 60 pills, take two a day, the cost - $3,200. One month of medication. That's where the crux of the matter is, not the old people as you say. One last word of caution about your opinion - you and yours will also get old one day.
Let us know then if you still feel the same way.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:24 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Sending an 85 yo diabetic to dialysis at $400-$600 per day just to prolong the inevitable is nuts.
Would you feel that way if it was your mom in kidney failure?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:28 am to mikeytig
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Would you feel that way if it was your mom in kidney failure?
Ahh, the appeal to the “what if it were your _____” fallacy that is so effective in health care and death penalty cases. Because all policy should be decided by those with irrational emotional investments.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:31 am to Yak
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Then you and your family can all start a fund called "Dad's life support"
Likewise.
I'm down for it
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:31 am to tigerdude3232
quote:I'm retired - baby boy!
Understand now baby boy?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:33 am to Homesick Tiger
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You should really be directing your anger towards the medical profession with their over-priced services, not the people requiring them. Just yesterday my brother told me his wife just had to go on a new type antibiotic drug. For 60 pills, take two a day, the cost - $3,200. One month of medication. That's where the crux of the matter is, not the old people as you say. One last word of caution about your opinion - you and yours will also get old one day.
Let us know then if you still feel the same way.
I'm not angry and I've worked for a large medical practice. Believe me I know, but that isn't the question. Yes I know we will get old and sick, but should you be responsible for me?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:34 am to Robin Masters
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Ahh, the appeal to the “what if it were your _____” fallacy that is so effective in health care and death penalty cases. Because all policy should be decided by those with irrational emotional investments.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:36 am to Diamondawg
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I'm retired - baby boy!
Ohhhhhhh I get it now. You are one of those 69 year old's who thinks because their parents took their money, they can take our money now. I see your position now.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:38 am to Homesick Tiger
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You haven't had major surgery lately have you?
A lot of those insane costs aren't real costs
They're insane because of the insurance based system
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:45 am to tigerdude3232
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but should you be responsible for me?
No, but that is the hand the government has dealt us. That being said, do you think that someone like me, born in '52, that has paid into the system for all those years should all of a sudden not have the opportunity to use what I have helped financed?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:45 am to Powerman
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You haven't had major surgery lately have you?
A lot of those insane costs aren't real costs
They're insane because of the insurance based system
To help the low IQ out there, When the insurance company (Medicare, medicaid, BCBS, etc) shows up to the doctors office and says we will give you 45% of what you charge if you take our patients, the doctors have to turn around and double their prices. This hurts people who have no coverage and turns into and endless back and forth between doctors/hospitals and insurance companies. I worked for a big time doctor when I was younger in San Antonio. His private practice made no money and he paid himself 200,000 a year. That ain't much when you have been the presidential doctor and the pope's doctor for the weekend. He was a jew btw so I found it strange the Vatican selected him.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:46 am to Homesick Tiger
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but should you be responsible for me?
No, but that is the hand the government has dealt us. That being said, do you think that someone like me, born in '52, that has paid into the system for all those years should all of a sudden not have the opportunity to use what I have helped financed?
Honestly man no that's shitty situation but if your generation takes it all, mine won't get anything from the same system that we paid more into....
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:50 am to Robin Masters
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Ahh, the appeal to the “what if it were your _____” fallacy that is so effective in health care and death penalty cases. Because all policy should be decided by those with irrational emotional investments.
ahh, why don't you answer the question?
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 9:52 am
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