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Should we break the US into 3 nations?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:17 pm
Perhaps the best thing to do is divide the country along ideological lines in order to avoid violence and blood shed.
Pacific coast for West Coast liberals - California, Washington and Oregon.
Northeast states from DC North to Maine.
Keep the Red States together
Pacific coast for West Coast liberals - California, Washington and Oregon.
Northeast states from DC North to Maine.
Keep the Red States together
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 2:18 pm
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:17 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
Yes please.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:18 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
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Perhaps the best thing to do is divide the country along ideological lines in order to avoid violence and blood shed.
The level of violence for this to actually be a possibility would have to be exponentially greater.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:19 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
Nope, just keep electing people who are against the nonsense and use the government to curb stomp anyone who attempts to secede .
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:19 pm to crazy4lsu
I'm trying to be proactive
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:19 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
I can dig it but the Red States better build walls. I give it a year before the loonies try to break back in.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:21 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
I seriously think this is the only answer. When the California and blue fail and run out of money and need protection no coming back.
Obama can be POTUS of the blue States and Trump Red.
It is the only way w/o bloodshed. We can use the movie studios in ILM NC.
Obama can be POTUS of the blue States and Trump Red.
It is the only way w/o bloodshed. We can use the movie studios in ILM NC.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:22 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
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Should we break the US into 3 nations?
Or more. But 3 is a great start.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:24 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
It's very unlikely, and it would give a massive, massive advantage to countries with strong central governments. I'd argue that it would almost encourage further centralization. If the trend in the world is for continued dissolution of governments into smaller and smaller entities, then maybe it might work. but given that the strongest central governments are usually the ones who are the strongest in the world at large, I think such a dissolution would invite further conflict.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:25 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
The red states would be immediately impoverished.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:26 pm to BamaAtl
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The red states would be immediately impoverished.
Well then I guess you would have to move to Commiefornia
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:26 pm to BamaAtl
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The red states would be immediately impoverished.
Not if you took our Democrat voters
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:29 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
Dividing the country is the Left's end game.
Instead of being united under one flag, we will be 50 separate nations...making it easier to rule the masses
Instead of being united under one flag, we will be 50 separate nations...making it easier to rule the masses
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:30 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
I have a different proposal.
Fewer states. Large mega states might be better than 50 states at counterbalancing D.C.
Differences in purses between D.C. and the States is what gives it so much influence. Mega states would have mega budgets and couldn't be bullied as much with threats of Federal cuts.
Domestic policy would ideally be left to each state. Foreign policy would be D.C.'s main focus.
Fewer states. Large mega states might be better than 50 states at counterbalancing D.C.
Differences in purses between D.C. and the States is what gives it so much influence. Mega states would have mega budgets and couldn't be bullied as much with threats of Federal cuts.
Domestic policy would ideally be left to each state. Foreign policy would be D.C.'s main focus.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not if you took our Democrat voters
You do realize that Democratic voters in the South is compromised of more than just Black people right. And this talking point always lampshades over the success of the Southern Strategy and the real reason why the South went GOPe all of a sudden.
Ironically, some Southerners still prefer Dem policies for their own local governments. As someone said in a previous thread about LA "people in Louisiana are always strongly conservative until it no longer it benefits them".
On neutral grounds, I think the entire South needs to wait until it has a robust economy like Texas before attempting another separation. And Texas has plenty of Blacks.
Wiki Southern Democrats
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e Civil Rights Act of 1964, signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson, a Democrat from the Southern state of Texas, led many Southern Democrats to vote for Goldwater at the national level. In the ensuing years, the increasing conservatism of the Republican Party compared to the liberalism of the Democratic Party led many more conservative white Democrats in the South to vote Republican. Many continued to vote for Democrats at the state and local levels for years after. By the start of the 21st century, Republicans had gained a solid advantage over Democrats at all levels of politics in most Southern states.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:44 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
I'm cool with this. One year later, Red States declare war on the other two sections and then the tribunals begin...
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:44 pm to BamaAtl
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The red states would be immediately impoverished.
And this is why it wouldn't heop anything. Because even if you kicked all the blue states , you'd still have blue cities within red states that would ruin it for the rest of us.
Now, if you separated into two nations and the red nation was willing to kick people out who didn't conform, or let them die as the useless lumps of shite that they are, then eventually the blue cities within the red states would disappear, but not at first.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:44 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
Texas would obviously leave if this happened. Then we would invade New Mexico, Oklahoma, Colorado, Kansas, and Wyoming and restore Texas to the original borders of the greatest Republic this world has ever seen. Santa Fe is coming home.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:45 pm to BornKjun
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:46 pm to CrazyJoeDivola
Well, we should be 50 sovereign states who cooperate for mutual defense and foreign affairs. But that ship sailed a long time ago
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