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re: Should Police Stop So Many "Routine" traffic stops?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:10 pm to the808bass
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:10 pm to the808bass
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Tons of crimes that just happened, were about to happen or were happening have been snuffed out by these traffic stops.
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This is the mythology.
You're just wrong dude. I've seen it and witnessed it with my two eyes. Lafourche puts out a good bit of press releases. Go do a keyword search for "traffic stop" and you will see several just in Lafourche that cops have solved or stopped several crimes via traffic stop.
From stopping a guy on a bike with no headlights at 3AM leading to the arrest of someone who lied about who he was and he just broke into 20 plus cars, to locating missing children, arresting murders, arresting people who just committed armed robbery, stopping who were on the way to probably kill someone, locating large amounts of drugs, finding stolen guns, finding counterfeit money and items to make counterfeit money... I could go on. I'm not sure why you would say this is a myth? It's been proven over and over traffic stops lead to some pretty big things.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 3:12 pm
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:10 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Yes
this is one of the biggest examples of our police state
the Supreme Court jurisprudence relating to cars is absolutely terrible and has destroyed more of our rights than possibly any other subsection of jurisprudence in our nation's history
this is one of the biggest examples of our police state
the Supreme Court jurisprudence relating to cars is absolutely terrible and has destroyed more of our rights than possibly any other subsection of jurisprudence in our nation's history
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:11 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Daunte Wright aside, if you think there are too many routine stops, ask your state rep to have some nit picky motor vehicle offenses removed from the books (i.e window tint, cracked this and cracked that, unnecessary use of the horn, etc). Don’t blame the cops for enforcing what the legislators have put on the books. It’s really the same as taking a weed arrest out on the police. Tell your legislator to man up and do something about it.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:11 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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I would rather have more cops policing the neighborhoods and not fricking with people on the highways unless they are driving reckless or obviously impaired.
More traffic laws are broken that ANY other type of law. So it makes sense that they focus on where the most laws are being broken.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:13 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Don’t blame the cops for enforcing what the legislators have put on the books.
Are we pretending the police don’t lobby for laws? Just checking.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:13 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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In other words, stereotypes exist for a reason.
Yes, and one of those reasons is comedy. Sadly, that’s a dying trade as laughing at our differences has become “insensitive”
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:13 pm to alphaandomega
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More traffic laws are broken that ANY other type of law.
we have too many traffic laws
the original intent of traffic laws has become warped to be an entry point of buttfricking our most sacred rights
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:14 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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The people that have too dark of tint or headlights broken should be ticketed in a parking lot or something.
It’s their job to enforce the laws put in front of them. Just like a sports official with the rules of a game, they maybe stupid or minor but it’s not up to determine right or wrong.
Go after the lawmakers who made these dumb stupid laws like tint & a light out on a license plate.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:14 pm to The Melt
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Go do a keyword search for "traffic stop" and you will see several just in Lafourche that cops have solved or stopped several crimes via traffic stop.
Do areas with high rates of traffic stops have higher rates of crimes solved? Or is there some confirmation bias in your statement?
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:17 pm to squid_hunt
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Totally, dude. Obviously, I'm not the only one with this opinion.
We all know how cops are. We all see them speeding through areas one day and pulling people over the next. We all see them flashing their lights to get through a red light when it suits them. We all get the joy of "Officer Safety" demanding respect while talking down to the citizens. We all know the likelihood of the crying girl in the short skirt getting off with a warning.
Your generalization fits some cops but obviously not all. I love how you think you know where cops are going, what they are doing, and why they do what they do. There can be multiple reasons why a cop may be speeding somewhere or hitting lights through a light then stopping. Have you ever considered there are different response levels? Ever considered they were headed to a call to backup or a semi-hot call but were called off or got redirected? It happens all the time. You literally have no clue what is going on but you talking out of your arse like you know.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:17 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Daunte Wright aside, if you think there are too many routine stops, ask your state rep to have some not picky motor vehicle offenses removed from the books (i.e window tint, cracked this and cracked that, unnecessary use of the horn, etc). Don’t blame the cops for enforcing what the legislators have put on the books. It’s really the same as taking a weed arrest out on the police. Tell your legislator to man up and do something about it.
I'm not blaming cops specifically. The are generally following the orders of their superiors. But to think doing things the way they always have been done is the solution you're wrong.
To use an analogy, the Spread offense in college football has essentially eliminated the pro-style offense. Even Nick Saban had to yield to the news ways of winning.
I'm just suggesting new ways of policing to achieve the same goals of keeping as many bad guys off the streets as possible and keeping the publics confidence.
Cameras everywhere is a totally game changer and law-enforcement needs to better adapt.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:21 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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Cameras everywhere is a totally game changer and law-enforcement needs to better adapt.
Are you referring to private cameras or public cameras like traffic and red light cameras?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:22 pm to the808bass
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Do areas with high rates of traffic stops have higher rates of crimes solved? Or is there some confirmation bias in your statement?
Umm actually yes, they wouldn't have come across the information, person, evidence to help solve the crime without the stop dumbass
. I just disproved your "myth" with evidence and you are butthurt (btw, you provided none). What is your authority on this or are you just talking out of your arse too? I bet you have nothing. Multiple crimes in one parish solved, prevented, stopped in progress by "routine" traffic stops. It happens more than you think but continue on with your uneducated opinion.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:23 pm to The Melt
Lol. Did you think you cited any data?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:23 pm to Neilfish
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It’s their job to enforce the laws put in front of them
So is it their job to lobby for laws, because it’s “an important part of our funding”?
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. Just like a sports official with the rules of a game,
If we told refs in football “every time you call a holding penalty, you can seize the jewelry of the offending OL” but didn’t have similar incentives for other rules..which rule would be enforced?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:25 pm to Dawgfanman
A county sheriff in our area was lobbying for more DUI checkpoint funding. Not because it made the streets safer, but because (and he said this out loud) “Do you know how much revenue we generate for the county with these checkpoints?” I paraphrased. But not much.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:26 pm to The Melt
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Your generalization fits some cops but obviously not all. I love how you think you know where cops are going, what they are doing, and why they do what they do. There can be multiple reasons why a cop may be speeding somewhere or hitting lights through a light then stopping. Have you ever considered there are different response levels? Ever considered they were headed to a call to backup or a semi-hot call but were called off or got redirected? It happens all the time. You literally have no clue what is going on but you talking out of your arse like you know.
What about cops riding, outside their precinct or even city/county on the highway at 25 miles over the limit..they headed somewhere super important? Because I see this daily
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:26 pm to lsu777
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you fight the cops in the court room not on the side of the road.
If they want to live.
It doesn't necessarily mean they will win court, but at least they will have the opportunity to walk and breath regardless of the outcome.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:28 pm to Dawgfanman
My Sister in Law was a probation officer. She drove like a bat out of hell everywhere she went. If she got pulled over, she flashed her badge. Walmart. The county fair. McDonalds. Or to a client’s house.
Never received a ticket once until she left the job.
Never received a ticket once until she left the job.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 3:28 pm to CU_Tigers4life
i would say the "routine" stop work as intended. They pulled over a driver who was found to have an active warrant.
Up to him trying to run was the routine part. once he resisted and attempted to flee, it was no longer "routine"
Up to him trying to run was the routine part. once he resisted and attempted to flee, it was no longer "routine"
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