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re: Should pharmaceutical advertisements be limited
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:15 pm to Wtodd
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:15 pm to Wtodd
This is already illegal. It happens pretty rarely. Most docs won’t even meet with pharma reps, so there’s no way they could negotiate a payoff.
There used to be a database that you could go and see all your doctor’s financial consideration from a medical vendor down to increments of $10. May still be around.
There used to be a database that you could go and see all your doctor’s financial consideration from a medical vendor down to increments of $10. May still be around.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:16 pm to the808bass
I'm betting it goes on a ton more than is thought.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:16 pm to IslandBuckeye
Pharma companies’ Marketing is a victim of its own inanities. Doctors getting new golf clubs for writing Claritin or taking a trip to the Bahamas to learn about Zithromax was never going to last.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:18 pm to Wtodd
It doesn’t. I’ve seen it happen. But it’s a very minor exception. Not worth the risk these days.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:30 pm to IslandBuckeye
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How many journals do you read?
A lot.
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Do you have a background in the field to make this judgement?
Yes.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:15 pm to DavidTheGnome
If pharmaceuticals can only be prescribed by licensed dr’s, why are the commercials show to the public at all?
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:21 pm to DavidTheGnome
I am in favor of more drugs being OTC (just about everything but narcotics and antibiotics)
So advertising is OK with me.
So advertising is OK with me.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:23 pm to DavidTheGnome
Yes, along with lawyer commercials...
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:28 pm to SSpaniel
quote:Prescribing diabetics insulin is not helping their diabetes. It's just pouring on more poison to cover the problem. We KNOW that Type II diabetes is addressable (and even reversible) with diet. Yet the powers that be and the drug companies are STILL prescribing diabetes-inducing diets as diabetes friendly.
How so?
Most of the same for CVD and statins/diet.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 2:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Prescribing diabetics insulin is not helping their diabetes. It's just pouring on more poison to cover the problem. We KNOW that Type II diabetes is addressable (and even reversible) with diet. Yet the powers that be and the drug companies are STILL prescribing diabetes-inducing diets as diabetes friendly.
Most of the same for CVD and statins/diet.
NO!
The patient must not be empowered.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:12 pm to Jack Daniel
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If pharmaceuticals can only be prescribed by licensed dr’s, why are the commercials show to the public at all?
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Are you telling me I DON'T really have an overactive bladder, restless leg syndrome, Fibromyalgia, or the horrible condition that afflicts Danny Glover where he and I can't stop laughing
...sorry. I had an outbreak of PBA
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:15 pm to starsandstripes
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This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:39 pm to starsandstripes
That’s mostly a patient choice issue. Given the choice of changing their diet or not, most patients won’t change.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:43 pm to the808bass
This has been my experience. It is frustrating as hell, we just keep trying and treating the results.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:52 pm to the808bass
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That’s mostly a patient choice issue. Given the choice of changing their diet or not, most patients won’t change.
True, but we should also acknowlege the fact that a lot of doctors will not address these items with patients. Instead they will discuss medication. Maybe I'll go look it up, but I think it was from Circulation, they looked at what doctors discussed / prescribed with patients. It was a very low number, like 15% or something, that talked to them about diet and exercise.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 5:11 pm to Jack Daniel
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If pharmaceuticals can only be prescribed by licensed dr’s, why are the commercials show to the public at all?
Because patients are the ones who take the meds, are the ones to benefit from the meds and who will suffer any side effects from the meds. Why on earth would I want my doctor to be the only one educated about it?
Posted on 5/31/18 at 5:29 pm to uagrad97
You are saying commercials educate you on the drug?
Posted on 5/31/18 at 5:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
Big Pharm firmly believes that this TV advertising that they do to be effective in boosting sales. In other words, they must have some evidence that Joe Six Pack sees the Boner Ads and goes to the Doc asking for Boner Pills.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:05 pm to starsandstripes
Stroke from AHA published way back in 2002 that 85% of those with stroke history and 80% without received dietary counseling and 76% and 70% for exercise.
Will await your data.
Will await your data.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:06 pm to starsandstripes
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but we should also acknowlege the fact that a lot of doctors will not address these items with patients.
I don’t believe this to be accurate. Over half of obese people are told by doctors to increase their exercise/physical activity when they visit their doctor. Same with patients with diabetes.
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