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re: Shocked, Not Shocked! Kristi Noem doesn't know what habeas corpus is.......

Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
6083 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:22 pm to
Admin please ban this obvious troll
Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:24 pm to
Can she define a woman?


You are one feeble molester
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2084 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:26 pm to
In fairness, Senator Hassan has been to law school and has a law degree. Noam does not have a law degree. It was a set up. Plus Hassan looked like she was reading notes on habeas corpus and not reciting it off the top of her legal head.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
16419 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:26 pm to
Ah another cherry picked video from the orange retard. She was never allowed to finished her comment before bull dyke jumped in and tried to mansplain her.

You're just stupid in general.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
6083 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:29 pm to
not enough to make you change sides? are you this fkn stupid? I'm seriously asking you a question.

These people are literally trying to destroy the country, and turn us into a Marxist regime. That isn't just a guess, that is a known fact. MSM is all aboard as well for a global reset of one world government.

Why this bothers you, IDK....but I couldn't care less. It is stupid. Meanwhile, democrats are for chopping off dicks, men in women's sports, bathrooms, illegal migrants, green energy, inflation......NOT ENOUGH to change your political mind? Jesus Christ dude, something is wrong for you if there is something. There isn't an alpha male I know that is Democrat...that's a fact. If you are a white male, and a democrat, you are either a fig or a severe soy boy, and certainly a beta.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17664 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

not enough to make you change sides? are you this fkn stupid? I'm seriously asking you a question.

These people are literally trying to destroy the country, and turn us into a Marxist regime. That isn't just a guess, that is a known fact. MSM is all aboard as well for a global reset of one world government.
lol, you obviously did not read his (ChineseBandits58) post completely or diligently enough.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
8999 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:58 pm to
Does your boyfriend know what habeas corpus is?
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
3153 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:04 pm to
FYI,

Obama, removed over 3mil+ illegals aliens from the US during his terms as President. Did they get due process ? NO, This is just BS from the commy dems. trying to kill anything DJT tries to do to make the US safer.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17664 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Obama, removed over 3mil+ illegals aliens from the US during his terms as President. Did they get due process ? NO, This is just BS from the commy dems. trying to kill anything DJT tries to do to make the US safer.
One thing Noem had correct is that Habeas Corpus can and has been suspended before.

So even if you do not know the law you can deduce a couple things just from this interaction alone:

1. If HC can be suspended, it is not a god given right and is NOT inalienable.

2. If it is not inalienable (i.e. alienable) the it is not by default a right extended to non-citizens. It may be extended, but not by default.

3. If it isn't an inalienable right, and not by default given to all persons then it being part of due process is indeed open to debate and adjudication.

The liberals are confusing detention with deportation. I'd say we/the right are too. The law of the land says that illegal aliens SHALL be detained. No if ands or buts. The intent was so that they do not endanger US citizens pending deportation. NOT to decide whether or not they should appear before a judge and decide whether or not to deport them (which is Habeas Corpus). That's what has been twisted up here.

Note that Biden had to grant ADMINISTRATIVE parole to illegals to avoid NOT deporting them from an ADMINISTRATIVE court not part of the judiciary. If that parole was not granted, then they were required to deport them; habeas corpus not required.

ETA: above is why it was both overkill, unnecessary, and pretty stupid to even try and use the AEA as several posters have noted (not myself). It opened the door to that interpretation. However, they were trying to nullify those paroles granted by the Biden administration in lieu of just revoking them.... which the judges would have then blocked the revocation. It was the lesser of two evils choice.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 2:39 pm
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