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re: Sharpton upset at R Congressman’s claim that US is a Republic, not Democracy
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:40 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:40 am to AggieHank86
"And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands one nation under God ". It's a republic not a democracy according to the people who founded it.
what we actually are ruled by right now is democracy, where the government runs everything to benefit themselves not worrying about the people of the Republic. Fooling idiots like yourself and many more. It's really dumbfounding that people like you and a few others on here can look yourself in the mirror at night and actually say that what's going on right now in this country is good .
With all the inflation, the illegals flowing across the boarder at tens of thousands everyday. The high gas, energy prices, the banks going under. And your happy all because trump lost and your guy won. We all fight back and forth about stupid shite and all these politicians laugh all the way to the bank getting richer and richer off our misery. Both sides play we the people for fools . They make 150 to 200 thousand a year but they are all multi millionaires. I make 100 thousand a year and am far from a millionaire.
We need to stop fight with each other and band together because all of these politicians wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire. But me as a conservative would help you as a flamming liberal if you were down and out because I care about people in general not who they voted for. I'm sure most on here who fight and fuss on here would do the same no matter how the other person voted.
what we actually are ruled by right now is democracy, where the government runs everything to benefit themselves not worrying about the people of the Republic. Fooling idiots like yourself and many more. It's really dumbfounding that people like you and a few others on here can look yourself in the mirror at night and actually say that what's going on right now in this country is good .
With all the inflation, the illegals flowing across the boarder at tens of thousands everyday. The high gas, energy prices, the banks going under. And your happy all because trump lost and your guy won. We all fight back and forth about stupid shite and all these politicians laugh all the way to the bank getting richer and richer off our misery. Both sides play we the people for fools . They make 150 to 200 thousand a year but they are all multi millionaires. I make 100 thousand a year and am far from a millionaire.
We need to stop fight with each other and band together because all of these politicians wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire. But me as a conservative would help you as a flamming liberal if you were down and out because I care about people in general not who they voted for. I'm sure most on here who fight and fuss on here would do the same no matter how the other person voted.
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:41 am to Bamadog75
Can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:41 am to Bamadog75
quote:
"And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands one nation under God ". It's a republic not a democracy according to the people who founded it.
what we actually are ruled by right now is democracy, where the government runs everything to benefit themselves not worrying about the people of the Republic. Fooling idiots like yourself and many more. It's really dumbfounding that people like you and a few others on here can look yourself in the mirror at night and actually say that what's going on right now in this country is good .
With all the inflation, the illegals flowing across the boarder at tens of thousands everyday. The high gas, energy prices, the banks going under. And your happy all because trump lost and your guy won. We all fight back and forth about stupid shite and all these politicians laugh all the way to the bank getting richer and richer off our misery. Both sides play we the people for fools . They make 150 to 200 thousand a year but they are all multi millionaires. I make 100 thousand a year and am far from a millionaire.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:43 am to Fun Bunch
This proves his ignorance. Plain and simple.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:45 am to dgnx6
quote:At least three distinct issues.
A republic is a form of democracy
all republics are democracies, but not all democracies are republics.
we are a representative democracy, also called the republic. But not all republics have a constitution. The existence of a constitution sets our system apart.
The “federal“ issue is an important (perhaps the single most important) element of the definition/distinction, but not all federal systems have a constitution. In fact, not all federal systems are even a form of democracy. historically, there have been a number of important federations which were instead of monarchies
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 7:50 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:46 am to Bamadog75
quote:I am literally guffawing here. you think that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by the founders.
And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands one nation under God ". It's a republic not a democracy according to the people who founded it.
That is a gold, Jerry. Gold!
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 7:49 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:49 am to AggieHank86
Kinda liking your 130 IQ baseline.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
We are a constitutional republic
And we use a democratic process to choose representatives.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
democratic republic.
Constitutional Republic
Counselor
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:01 am to Dig Deep
quote:which is a form of “republic.“ Which is a form of “representative democracy.“ Which is a form of “democracy.”
Constitutional Republic
Pedants are not usually so confused by the concept of subsets.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:03 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The average voter in that district (any district, actually) is too uneducated to understand the distinction.
It feels like you are questioning the concept of universal suffrage.
But I could be wrong.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:05 am to BozemanTiger
quote:
And we use a democratic process to choose representatives.
Sure, but only to elect representatives that have to follow the Constitution. The Constitution is placed above any idea of "democracy", but many of the drooling morons do not realize this.
The Constitution is in place to protect the people from themselves, after they get whipped up in a frenzy begging the elites to take their freedom and after they have been brainwashed by elites who can easily control their emotions and opinions through the media industrial complex.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 8:06 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:09 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The average voter in that district (any district, actually) is too uneducated to understand the distinction.
So is he.
The constitution stands in the way of Progressives and their true democracy. They hate that.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:10 am to TrueTiger
quote:I question everything. It is my nature.
It feels like you are questioning the concept of universal suffrage. But I could be wrong.
limiting the franchise would, in my opinion, probably produce better government. On the other hand, universal suffrage also has points in its favor, including the fact that it increases the “buy in” element.
candidly, I ambivalent on the matter, but I usually end up leaning in the direction of some restrictions on the exercise of the franchise.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:11 am to burger bearcat
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Sure, but only to elect representatives that have to follow the Constitution.
There are distinctions between democracy and a representative republic. A democracy is where 50.01% of the population can vote to kill the others and it becomes law.
Progressives want this.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:14 am to Dig Deep
quote:
Constitutional Republic
Counselor
Again, both/either
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:14 am to BozemanTiger
quote:
And we use a democratic process to choose representatives.
Sort of, not entirely.
Its a constitutional republic with some Democratic traits.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:15 am to burger bearcat
quote:in some ways, a constitution serves a function in a democracy analogous to the role of a governor on an internal combustion engine.
The Constitution is placed above any idea of "democracy", but many of the drooling morons do not realize this.
An engine with a governor is still an internal combustion engine, but the governor works to limit excesses.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 8:18 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:15 am to AggieHank86
quote:
limiting the franchise would, in my opinion, probably produce better government.
The problem is better government would benefit certain populations and make life worse for the ones who weren't allowed to participate, which causes all sorts of issues and high Gini coefficients
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:17 am to burger bearcat
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Sure, but only to elect representatives that have to follow the Constitution
Since you're trying to be technical I'm going to correct you in a very technical manner. They are limited by the Constitution but don't have to follow the Constitution. There's a very important distinction in those two concepts.
quote:
The Constitution is placed above any idea of "democracy"
This doesn't make sense because the Constitution legalizes democracy and mandates democracy, so there's no ranking of one above the other because they're one in the same.
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