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Shake Shack returns entirety of PPP loan

Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:55 am
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:55 am
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Shake Shack returning entire $10 million PPP loan

The "PPP" came with no user manual and it was extremely confusing," said Danny Meyer, Shake Shack's founder and CEO of its parent company, Union Square Hospitality Group, and Shake Shack CEO Randy Garutti in the statement.

"Shake Shack was fortunate last Friday to be able to access the additional capital we needed to ensure our long term stability through an equity transaction in the public markets," they continued.



Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:56 am to
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Shake Shack returning entire $10 million PPP loan

The "PPP" came with no user manual and it was extremely confusing," said Danny Meyer, Shake Shack's founder and CEO of its parent company, Union Square Hospitality Group, and Shake Shack CEO Randy Garutti in the statement.

"Shake Shack was fortunate last Friday to be able to access the additional capital we needed to ensure our long term stability through an equity transaction in the public markets," they continued.


He sounds like an idiot.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 10:57 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118755 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:58 am to
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Shake Shack returns entirety of PPP loan


Bad move.

That loan will soon be a grant.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70179 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:58 am to
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He sounds like an idiot.


He's giving it back because he was able to keep his operation going without it. He's giving it back so that businesses that actually need it can use it.

Danny Meyer is far from an idiot.
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2711 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:00 am to
PR move. They were taking some heat from taking the full $10M when they just raised ~$100M.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:01 am to
Danny Meyer is a great guy within the industry. Two of his restaurants in NYC are amongst my favorite places to eat. He briefly got rid of tipping in all his restaurants. It may still be in place but from things I saw on Twitter I don’t think the idea worked.
His book “Setting the Table” is a worth while read.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12592 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:01 am to
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The "PPP" came with no user manual and it was extremely confusing," said Danny Meyer, Shake Shack's founder and CEO of its parent company, Union Square Hospitality Group,


I bet Sarbanes-Oxley looks like Latin to him then. When you wanna make middle management wonder about upper level competency... this is exactly how you do it.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70179 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:02 am to
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PR move. They were taking some heat from taking the full $10M when they just raised ~$100M.


Sure, but $10MM will go very far for a lot of other small businesses, so even if it is damage control/PR, it's still very helpful.

Compare that with Ruth's Chris.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118755 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:03 am to
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PR move. They were taking some heat from taking the full $10M when they just raised ~$100M.


Ahhh, the full story.

Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:03 am to
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PR move.

And a damn good one if they have enough cash to survive this.
Posted by SickGainzLP
Member since May 2019
1230 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:04 am to
Total PR move from a predatory corporation that helped empty the small business fund in a couple weeks.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:05 am to
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Compare that with Ruth's Chris.

At what point are they forced into the same play? IMO, its too late for them, 2nd place is the 1st loser as far as their reputation is concerned. I don't think it will damage their bottom line in the long run, Americans have extremely short memories
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70179 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:07 am to
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At what point are they forced into the same play? IMO, its too late for them, 2nd place is the 1st loser.


I think if they hold onto it, they become forever villains to some people. If they give it back, however late, there is some redemption for them.

The fact that they furloughed everyone but management and are using the $20MM to pay themselves is what is really pissing people off.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73490 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:12 am to
If you don't need a loan, don't take it. If it was a grant or something, then he could have given it to his employees, but it was a loan. I don't understand calling the guy an idiot for making what was probably a smart and responsible choice.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 11:15 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:13 am to
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PR move. They were taking some heat from taking the full $10M when they just raised ~$100M.


As a PR move, meh. Customers don't really care about that level of detail.

As a "being a good business" move, good for him/them. If they don't need it, it's the right thing to do.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10476 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:18 am to
Man, I wish I had one of those milk shakes.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2102 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:19 am to
Publicly traded companies shouldn't have been able to apply.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98695 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:20 am to
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Bad move.

That loan will soon be a grant


They were taking a huge PR hit. Ruth's Chris will likely have to do the same thing for the same reason
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9113 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:23 am to
I thought these loans were to pay their employees. Does he still plan to keep his employees employed and pay them?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:28 am to
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Publicly traded companies shouldn't have been able to apply.


Why?
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