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re: SFPLCs buddy spills the beans on Lawfare

Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:55 pm to
Ask Elon Musk.

Dems are going to go hunting if they take back the reins of terror.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
Okay, Would you accept disincentivize? That doesn't change what she advocated for.

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This is your 2nd or 3rd time incorrectly representing what she actually said


So far none of your corrections have negated the main issue here. So you can keep counting how many times you can squint and split hairs, or you can address the behavior she's advocating for.
Posted by CleverUserName
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
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So legitimate prosecutions of actual criminal behavior are "lawfare" if a person from one party controls the prosecuting arm of the accused?


Was that what happened in the FISA warrant applications and approvals in the "Russian Collusion" fiasco? That's just one simple example.

And here is your definition you so desperately want.

Lawfare simply is the strategic use of legal systems, courts, and regulations to delegitimize, financially exhaust, intimidate, bankrupt, or silence adversaries. Easy pleasy.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
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You're leaving out the "breaking the law" part



As did Slotkin.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:57 pm to
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Okay, Would you accept disincentivize? That doesn't change what she advocated for.

We're back to page 1

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Isn't deterrence ("scaring others") part of prosecuting people who broke the law?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:59 pm to
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Was that what happened in the FISA warrant applications and approvals in the "Russian Collusion" fiasco?

Not all of them. There were prosecutions for the dishonesty involved in certain warrants.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:59 pm to
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As did Slotkin.

All the "signature cases" so far involve allegations of breaking the law.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:59 pm to
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Lawfare


Still waiting on an operative definition of this


I try to give you space, but, man ur pretty f'in ignorant if you can't reconcile this. And claiming you can't starts to push you into stupid territory and I don't think you're stupid.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:00 pm to
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We're back to page 1


No. She wants to scare young people from taking jobs in the Trump Administration, not scare young people into not breaking the law.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:01 pm to
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All the "signature cases" so far involve allegations of breaking the law.



"Signature cases" do not involve potential future employment of young people that dare to be employed in the Trump Administration.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:02 pm to
worthless to discuss anything with lawyers. they are slime without morals. will argue for argument's sake.

heard 1 celebrating that he got a young male a reduced sentence (8 years) after found guilty of child abuse in which the infant eventually succumbed to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:05 pm to
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I try to give you space, but, man ur pretty f'in ignorant if you can't reconcile this.

We have 4-5 competing definitions in this thread alone
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:05 pm to
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She wants to scare young people from taking jobs in the Trump Administration, not scare young people into not breaking the law.

What scares them is being prosecuted for breaking the law as part of the admin.

which brings us back to page 1
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:06 pm to
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"Signature cases" do not involve potential future employment of young people that dare to be employed in the Trump Administration.

Did you watch the video?

You're disputing what she clearly said, with the quoted language.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:06 pm to
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What scares them is being prosecuted for breaking the law as part of the admin.


Why not *any* admin?

Also, what does being part of the Trump admin have to do with breaking the law?
This post was edited on 10/21/26 at 2:07 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:08 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


Do repulsive and repugnant mean the same thing? thought I would ask the expert
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:09 pm to
Witch hunting is a valid tool .
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:09 pm to
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Why not *any* admin?

I don't think it's exclusive

Trump just has a lot of people in his orbit who are bad at following the law, including multiple lawyers

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what does being part of the Trump admin have to do with breaking the law?

Nothing organically. It's what specific members of his admin do that involves allegations of breaking the law.

Just being in or associated with the admin doesn't automatically bring you under criminal scrutiny.

Take Stephen Miller for one example. Has completely fricked up so many simple things it's mind-boggling. Has been a leader in both admins. I don't think he's ever come close to any criminal prosecution. I think he's incredibly dumb at government and policy implementation, but I don't think he's a criminal.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:10 pm to
Guilt by association.
Posted by CleverUserName
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Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:10 pm to
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Not all of them. There were prosecutions for the dishonesty involved in certain warrants.


Who cares about the later slap on the wrist "prosecutions" in which effectively NOTHING was actually done in the long run..... does the actual FISA warrant fiasco, and the intentions for it, in any way meet the definition I laid out for it?

If this makes you uncomfortable... we can move on to General Michael Flynn.


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