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re: Serious question for liberals. This is not bait!

Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:21 am to
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:21 am to
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Ok, but the solution isn't to keep paying ridiculous sums of money for health care and insurance. The solution is to bring down the exorbitant costs of health care.



Oh I agree with that as well. The cost of healthcare has risen much faster than inflation.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:21 am to
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LSU2ALA


Get a job with good health insurance.

Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:25 am to
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Get a job with good health insurance.


That’s not possible for everyone and you know it. There aren’t that many jobs out there that provide healthcare. In the end, I believe we have a Christian obligation to take care of each other.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52381 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:27 am to
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So you don’t think it’s valid that a person would cast their vote simply based on the President being a racist, bigot, liar, etc, etc, etc, etc and how those behaviors shape our social world. You certainly can ignore those things, but I won’t. They matter.


Hell no it isnt valid.

Not when Biden has made some terribly racist and bigoted comments and told lies.

Dems cry about Trump saying illegal immigrants are rapists, murders, and some are good people.

Completely true, could've been said better though but no one will confuse Trump with a great orator.

Then Dems turn around and ignore the fact that Joe said no African American before Barack Obama was articulate or clean.

"Muh it was was taken out of context."

Sorry, your dog wont hunt.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:29 am to
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That’s not possible for everyone and you know it. There aren’t that many jobs out there that provide healthcare. In the end, I believe we have a Christian obligation to take care of each other.



You need to get out more.

There are plenty of companies that offer healthcare.

I have never worked for a company that didn't have healthcare.

You might have to move.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52381 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:29 am to
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In the end, I believe we have a Christian obligation to take care of each other.


Are we pretending that the vast majority who people who would benefit from this aren't people who won't take care of themselves in a financial sense?
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45171 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:30 am to
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So you don’t think it’s valid that a person would cast their vote simply based on the President being a racist, bigot, liar, etc, etc, etc, etc and how those behaviors shape our social world.

That might make sense if Biden wasn’t a racist, bigot, liar, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:31 am to
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So you don’t think it’s valid that a person would cast their vote simply based on the President being a racist, bigot, liar, etc, etc, etc, etc 


Biden isnt president yet

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I believe we have a Christian obligation to take care of each other.


Now we all assuming everybody is a christian
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 7:33 am
Posted by bayouawhiskey
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
377 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:31 am to
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How is he a racist ?


If you don’t know, then you don’t want to know.

Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:33 am to
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You need to get out more.

There are plenty of companies that offer healthcare.

I have never worked for a company that didn't have healthcare.

You might have to move.


Healthcare is not an issue for me either so that’s not the point. There are lots of jobs with healthcare. There are also lots of jobs without it as well. Those jobs still need to be done so even if everyone is educated as can be there would still be jobs without healthcare.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:34 am to
Not blaming the rise of Healthcare on the one in office for 50 years is comical
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:35 am to
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Are we pretending that the vast majority who people who would benefit from this aren't people who won't take care of themselves in a financial sense?



I think there are some but not the vast majority. I also refuse to let the fact some people may try to game the system keep me from wanting to help. That’s a hard hearted way to go through life and it doesn’t appeal to me. I think we can provide healthcare at the same time as weeding out the bad actors.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:37 am to
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Now we all assuming everybody is a christian


I don’t assume that at all. The question was what is an issue that Biden has that would lead you to vote for him. I answered that and gave the reasoning for it. If someone is not Christian, then I would not expect them to understand my worldview.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:41 am to
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In the end, I believe we have a Christian obligation to take care of each other.


I agree. We just shouldn't force others to do it. The religious (and other supposed moral people) have abdicated their responsibility and expected the government to take over.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52381 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:41 am to
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I think there are some but not the vast majority




Like the other poster said, you should get out more
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78362 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:42 am to
You and Joe Biden are now on record as favoring that the United States provide “ free healthcare “ to everyone who reaches our shore. Potentially another billion people. Additionally, Joe Biden is in favor of open borders and sanctuary cities.

No offense, but you just demonstrated WHY Democrats and Democratic voters are incompatible with American survival. It is the National Suicide Party.

It is also quaint that you would site the terms “ Christian “ and “ sinful” and align with a party that has repudiated both concepts .
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:44 am to
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I agree. We just shouldn't force others to do it. The religious (and other supposed moral people) have abdicated their responsibility and expected the government to take over.


This is an excellent point as well. By no means do I think churches and Christians should abdicate their responsibility to care for their fellow man as called for in the Bible. Christ said the second greatest command is to love our neighbors as ourselves. At the same time, I don’t believe my Christian worldview and ideals should stop at the walls of the church. It has to influence my politics as well if it’s truly a part of who I am.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:47 am to
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You and Joe Biden are now on record as favoring that the United States provide “ free healthcare “ to everyone who reaches our shore. Potentially another billion people. Additionally, Joe Biden is in favor of open borders and sanctuary cities.

No offense, but you just demonstrated WHY Democrats and Democratic voters are incompatible with American survival. It is the National Suicide Party.

It is also quaint that you would site the terms “ Christian “ and “ sinful” and align with a party that has repudiated both concepts


Hey, I know my worldview is radical. I believe the Bible was serious when it said take care of the foreigner for you were a stranger in a strange land. I believe it was serious when it said to take care of the sick.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52381 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:47 am to
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How is he a racist ?


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If you don’t know, then you don’t want to know.



Typical deflection.

Sorry, but calling Haiti a shithole country doesnt make someone a racist, I can post the definition of the word here if you need a refresher on its meaning.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76195 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:47 am to
Maybe the Dems will get you the mental health treatment you need
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