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re: Senior person in “intelligence”, “this is a total f’ing disaster.”
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:37 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:37 am to SlidellCajun
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I think the Epstein matter is either an issue of national security or it’s a nothing burger.
The highest profile prisoner in the US (if not the world) was allowed to off himself (best case) while in a NY city jail before he could face trial.
Occam's Razor, especially given the surrounding context and facts.
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:38 am to OccamsStubble
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If chaos rids us of compromised politicians, then chaos is what is needed here.
Only an idiot would think it would rid us of compromised poiticians
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:49 am to VOR
quote:If you were close to the investigation it wouldn’t cross your mind to start putting together the players? There is at least a list of suspects.
Why would there be such a “list?
If this is a nothing burger then it needs to be communicated from Trump to the American people explaining what we know, what is speculated, and if the FBI/DOJ will be acting. NOT SAYING ANYTHING IS UNACCEPTABLE.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:51 am to RoyalWe
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NOT SAYING ANYTHING IS UNACCEPTABLE.
Well, they are saying something. Trump just told you to sit down, shut up and follow their script.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:54 am to Flats
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The highest profile prisoner in the US (if not the world) was allowed to off himself (best case) while in a NY city jail before he could face trial.
Occam's Razor, especially given the surrounding context and facts.
Again, I can buy that he might have killed himself (like Robert Maxwell before him). Ruined, both reputationally and otherwise, facing a long prison term, 66 years old, etc.
But, it is possible that both were killed to keep them silent. Certainly, that isn't a "crazy conspiracy theory" in context of all the known facts and reasonable assumptions one might draw. Either way, what was the purpose of his operation? There HAS to be evidence in the authorities' hands. If it was JUST that he was getting his jollies with underage girls, they can redact PII for the girls and get it into public hands. But, if they are keeping details quiet for national security, then it is OBVIOUS to anyone that it must be Mossad and/or CIA involvement. Again, period.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 8:55 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:56 am to GumboPot
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Can you imagine being a law enforcement officer with the power of the FBI and having thousands of video tapes of children being raped and not only doing nothing about, BUT COVERING IT UP?
children? you mean like the 14 year old runaway working as a prostitute innocent children like that?
if i hear charley kirk clutch his pearls and wail "our children" one more time i'm going to vomit.
i'll give you ronbots credit you're consistent and you never give up.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:59 am to GumboPot
Keep the pressure on.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:01 am to Ace Midnight
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Again, I can buy that he might have killed himself (like Robert Maxwell before him). Ruined, both reputationally and otherwise, facing a long prison term, 66 years old, etc.
Ok, but why was he allowed to? I'm not a corrections expert but I suspect they have protocols for high-risk people to actually keep them from being able to off themselves. And why did a camera malfunction at just the right time?
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There HAS to be evidence in the authorities' hands.
Well, the FBI lost some of it by their own admission. Maybe they lost all of it. Maybe it was given to Peter Strzok for safekeeping. I don't know what our government might have because they've keystone copped the entire thing to a completely implausible degree. Oopsie daisy, we lost those boxes of DVDs. Whoops, we turned our back on the highest profile prisoner we've ever had in our lifetimes as prison guards and he managed to off himself. Darn the luck.
And there are authorities that aren't controlled by our government that may/probably have evidence.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:02 am to Scruffy
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2. They are lying now and allowing pedophiles and rapists off because we have a two tiered justice system.
This one, most likely... IMO... But I think there are legit threats against Trump and certain cabinet members lives, and certain family members' lives, if they release the files.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:02 am to GumboPot
quote:So a John Brennan protégée'?
Senior person in “intelligence”,
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:02 am to LSUSkip
quote:Anyone who decided to associate with Epstein to the point of taking a weekend-plus to fly to his exclusive island (with whatever tempting lures were offered) at a minimum calls into question their decision making and potential to be influenced. Whether that rises to being actually charged with a crime or just being judged in the court of public opinion, the light of day needs to shine on these politicians who ask to govern us.
Gotta get the facts straight because just being on the flight log doesn't mean anything if it's just once.
If you're are a public servant and on the flight log, you've got some 'splaining to do. Spill the beans.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:07 am to TDFreak
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Whether that rises to being actually charged with a crime or just being judged in the court of public opinion, the light of day needs to shine on these politicians who ask to govern us.
This. I get that these people aren't stupid and have vast resources, and they may have covered their tracks too well. Fine, tell us that.
I would imagine less than 50% of crime cases are actually solved in first world countries, and it's probably a lot lower elsewhere. And most crimes aren't committed by intelligent people with access to near unlimited power and influence. But if you can't nail the players, at least nail the operation.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:23 am to VOR
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Does anyone actually believe DOJ has a definite “list” of people who definitely abused young girls but were not prosecuted?
I agree this is highly unlikely.
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But those names wouldn’t be released if there wasn’t evidence to support a prosecution…
But some of the names have been "leaked" over the years.
The question folks have are about Epstein. You would agree that, if any of the things that have been alleged were going in (outside of Maxwell and Epstein), it was being done for money, power/favors or both, correct? So that natural assumption is that Epstein and Maxwell were keeping some sort of list of "clients" for their own purposes, even if they weren't active intelligence assets (which is ludicrous to believe, but I guess the chances aren't 0% they were retired/inactive).
It makes no sense to illegally traffick human beings for no gain. The risk/reward equation falls apart. And if they were doing it for gain, where is the evidence. (It is a false argument about Maxwell - she still could be imprisoned for trafficking solely to Epstein - I mean there is overwhelming evidence she was a procurer for him.) If they weren't doing it for gain, solely for their own entertainment, where is that evidence?
They cannot win with the current, "Nothing to see here, folks." They have to come as clean as they can (or, as it appears, wait it out and see what happens).
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:28 am to SDVTiger
and you're still posting like you're five
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:36 am to GumboPot
The woke right strikes again.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:36 am to Flats
quote:Well, then Trump has committed a rare error and he can go frick himself. I don't even care what story he tells me, but I want him on the record.
Well, they are saying something. Trump just told you to sit down, shut up and follow their script.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:38 am to Flats
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Occam's Razor, especially given the surrounding context and facts.
Is that he hung himself with his bedsheets.
The least likely thing is someone went in there and killed him.
Muh occams razor involves an underground pedophile ring and the worlds largest conspiracy cover up.
Come on man.
A 66 year old looking at 40-50 years for sex crimes killed himself.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 9:43 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:41 am to OccamsStubble
Epstein/Maxwell are just a possible larger problem for POTUS.
If MOSSAD was involved, then we can speculate that some of the "other" possible nefarious schemes that have floated around for decades may also be credible.
So, POTUS has to deal with Congress having been bought for agents of Isreal,
other cells within who knows where able to gum things up within the Fed Bov't,
Oh and by the way, the Banking (Rothchild) cartel that can mess with what else Trump is trying to do.
There is a lot going on, and Trump is going to fight on the hill he chooses.
I do believe that if Trump can recognize the size of the possible issues here, then he will want to end it somehow.
What he and his team will come up with is beyond me.
But he did not come this far to fail now. Or to sweep it under the carpet.
If that happens it is for another reason.
So, til then, "free beer tomorrow"...
If MOSSAD was involved, then we can speculate that some of the "other" possible nefarious schemes that have floated around for decades may also be credible.
So, POTUS has to deal with Congress having been bought for agents of Isreal,
other cells within who knows where able to gum things up within the Fed Bov't,
Oh and by the way, the Banking (Rothchild) cartel that can mess with what else Trump is trying to do.
There is a lot going on, and Trump is going to fight on the hill he chooses.
I do believe that if Trump can recognize the size of the possible issues here, then he will want to end it somehow.
What he and his team will come up with is beyond me.
But he did not come this far to fail now. Or to sweep it under the carpet.
If that happens it is for another reason.
So, til then, "free beer tomorrow"...
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:42 am to ScottFowler
what's going to lose the right elections is continuing down this path that the jews did it.
It's really Hitlerian bullshite.
It's really Hitlerian bullshite.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:10 am to dgnx6
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what's going to lose the right elections is continuing down this path that the jews did it.
It's really Hitlerian bullshite.
No one is calling for camps.
And the bitch is that Trump and DOJ haven't done anything about Epstein.
Except pronounce him still dead.
My point is that Trump will do, what he chooses, when he chooses.
No one is going to rush him.
And, so far, he is keeping the band together.
For what plan, we dont know.
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