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re: Senate is set to vote on the SAVE Act; Thune is setting it up for failure

Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:18 pm to
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No talking filibuster.

Why do you need a filibuster if they can't get 50 votes?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:19 pm to
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MAGA silliness


Wanting fair elections is MAGA silliness?

Wow.....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:22 pm to
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Wanting fair elections is MAGA silliness?

Wow.....


I would say "don't be retarded" but then I saw who posted this

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KCT


The "MAGA silliness" here started after the 2020 election, so that poisoned the entire discussion around this subject.

Then you have the violation of basic conservative principles (states rights) by MAGA.

Just own it for once.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:23 pm to
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Correct, 50 votes are not available today


So Rep Luna was lying? Her staff bright roses to the 50th
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:24 pm to
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So Rep Luna


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Senate is set to vote on the SAVE Act;


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50 votes are not available today


Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:25 pm to
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Then you have the violation of basic conservative principles (states rights) by MAGA.


SO a state could let democrat votes count double if they want to.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476560 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:26 pm to
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SO a state could let democrat votes count double if they want to.


I would say "don't be retarded" but then I saw who posted this

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RohanGonzales


No. A state cannot violate the Constitution like that.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:28 pm to
Be gentle. He’s not our best and brightest.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6576 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:29 pm to
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I would say "don't be retarded" but then I saw who posted this


Ad hom probably isn’t the best place to start.

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The "MAGA silliness" here started after the 2020 election, so that poisoned the entire discussion around this subject.


Seems vague and nondescript.

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Then you have the violation of basic conservative principles (states rights) by MAGA.


Does the federal government have precedent and legal standing to regulate elections for federal office?
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6129 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:30 pm to
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how can you do it when the scumbags in charge hold most of the cards?



Re-elect no one
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476560 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:31 pm to
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Ad hom probably isn’t the best place to start.


Did you miss the whole "The Steal" stuff? It's still going on today, continuing to marginalize the non-left

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Does the federal government have precedent and legal standing to regulate elections for federal office?

The federal government has all sorts of power to encroach on states.

That's why it's a principle of conservatism to fight that.

Leftists want to give fedgov more power and decrease states rights.
Posted by 4Bagger
Member since Jan 2025
777 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:31 pm to
"He needs to be removed"!!!!!.....to be replaced with one just like him.

Thinking that removing these people from office is always the answer is a losing strategy. How about investigate these criminals!
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6576 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:35 pm to
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Did you miss the whole "The Steal" stuff? It's still going on today, continuing to marginalize the non-left


What does that have to do with your choice to begin with ad hom attacks?

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The federal government has all sorts of power to encroach on states. That's why it's a principle of conservatism to fight that. Leftists want to give fedgov more power and decrease states rights.


I didn’t say, “does the federal government overreach here?” I said, “do the feds have legal precedent, as in court reviewed and determined to be constitutional precedent?”
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71032 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:36 pm to
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Either craft more palatable legislation, don't poison otherwise palatable legislation with MAGA silliness, or have Trump act as a dealmaker to craft legislation that can pass (Something he's been very weak on his 5+ years as President)


Predictably vague yet still disappointing.

You are like my wife. You don't know what you want for dinner. But you damn sure don't want "that."

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476560 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:37 pm to
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Predictably vague yet still disappointing.

You are like my wife. You don't know what you want for dinner. But you damn sure don't want "that."


I don't want any legislation that's going to expand federal power and barely see the need for most legislation from DC these days (we need to repeal laws).

But we weren't talking about what I want
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71032 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:37 pm to
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But we weren't talking about what I want


Sure we were

The question is how do you avoid a war amomgst Republicans. Your answer left even you wanting I think.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 7:39 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476560 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:38 pm to
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What does that have to do with your choice to begin with ad hom attacks?

Nothing. I misquoted text. This was supposed to be the quoted text

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Seems vague and nondescript.


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” I said, “do the feds have legal precedent, as in court reviewed and determined to be constitutional precedent?”

I answered that question, and then added in a relevant commentary on the response.

What does their ability to potentially do so matter when we're talking about Republican principles?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37758 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:39 pm to
“Don’t sign any legislation until the SAVE act is voted on”


Also this board

“Thune is intentionally causing this act to fail by voting on it!!!”
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33959 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:40 pm to
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The "MAGA silliness" here started after the 2020 election, so that poisoned the entire discussion around this subject.

So there’s no MAGA silliness in the bill. Only feelings.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6576 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:46 pm to
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What does their ability to potentially do so matter when we're talking about Republican principles?


At least to my understanding, Republican principles put an emphasis on limiting federal overreach that extends beyond the powers legitimately granted to the them via the constitution. If it’s a legitimate, constitutional role of the federal government, Republican principles don’t contradict that.


Seeing as how the constitution has the Elections Clause in Article 1, Section 4, Clause 1, it would seem to be constitutional for the feds to offer some regulation in federal elections.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 7:49 pm
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