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re: Sen. Mike Lee: A conservative case for criminal justice reform
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:08 am to DelU249
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:08 am to DelU249
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this talking point is so tired. guys aren't getting locked up for 10, 15, 20 years for having a little bit of weed. they're major distributors. they aren't good boys who dindu nuffin. they work for some bad hombres and they do some bad shite. you can legalize drugs all you want, they're going to find themselves behind bars. because they're criminals. it's not shocking that they usually find illegally possessed firearms on them as well. they keep a lot of guns on them to protect them from their shady colleagues, people looking to rob them, and the 5-0.
you will find a miscarriage of justice anywhere you want to, but the majority of people doing time for weed aren't good kids who made one tiny mistake.
Yeah, and what happened to the illegal sale of alcohol when the Volstead Act was overturned? The mafia lost a huge chunk of money, the country quit going blind in bathtub gin, more people made money, and everybody in general was better off for it.
The war on drugs, much like prohibition, is an enormous cost to taxpayers and only serves one purpose, to expand government and keep the prisons full. But yeah we’re a “free” country.
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:09 am to roadGator
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:10 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:14 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:17 am to DelU249
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the mafia kept running their other rackets and ventured into new ones.
The point of the whole thing is, if you want to get rid of the mafia, don’t restrict freedoms to people, all that will do is open up more markets for gangs to fill. Because where there is a demand, there will be a supplier legal or no. Open up all business opportunities to the free market and boom, there goes the gangs and tax revenues go up.
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:20 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:21 am to CptRusty
Alaska just went through CJ reform but went overboard IMO.. it definitely needs rweaks
To known as catch and release around here
I support CJ reform, mainly drug crimes but the thieves need to be locked away. They basically had free reign
To known as catch and release around here
I support CJ reform, mainly drug crimes but the thieves need to be locked away. They basically had free reign
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:21 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:22 am to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:Yes, of course.
, I think it’s not only the mandatory-minimums, but the drug laws themselves.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:22 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Too bad he didn’t hook up with conservative house members and try to get something like this done over the last 2 years when we controlled it all.
But that would’ve required our Republicans actually DOING SOMETHING rather than talking.
But that would’ve required our Republicans actually DOING SOMETHING rather than talking.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:23 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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all that will do is open up more markets for gangs to fill.
People who don't understand simple Econ will never get it. Prohibition protects the black market, not the average citizen
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:24 am to DelU249
quote:So any and all type of arms are OK to "legalize", but not "substances"?
the cato institute is very deceptive in the way they sell this garbage to the public. these fricking loonies would have you legalize every substance under the sun using the same retarded logic abortion activists use.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:24 am to DelU249
quote:This is just you saying words on assumption with empirical backing to it.
i didn't say i was against the legalization of marijuana. i said legalizing it won't do shite for "criminal justice reform" whatever the frick that is. the people attracted to black market industries tend to be criminals, and if you put them out of work, they're going to find a new line of business, they're not going to become some brand name distributor.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:26 am to DelU249
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say you want to legalize some crazy shite though.
How's prohibition working? Keeping people from using?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:31 am to DelU249
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i thought this was about our prison population and criminal justice reform
Of course. We need to rethink the "crimes" that we are sending people to prison for.
If, as you say, criminals will just find other criminal activity to partake in, then so be it. They need to be jailed, but I'd much rather our criminal justice system focus on crimes with actual victims, instead of wasting time and resources hunting down consenting adults willing exchanging arbitrarily demonized plants.
And yes I want to fricking spark up
. Alcohol is terrible for you and these days I get a hangover from 3 beers.Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:42 am to CptRusty
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:43 am to DelU249
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i'm not against the legalization of marijuana, just stop acting like it would serve some more noble purpose.
the people distributing mass quantities of marijuana, aren't going to become captains of industries. they're going to find some other illegal shite to do, and surprising to no one, they're going to end up in prison.
Ridiculous. Half of all drug related arrests are for pot.
How many prison sentences are handed out as a direct result of marijuana prohibition? If it were decriminalized, that number is zero.
That isn't to say someone won't commit other crimes. If a would-be pot trafficker rapes someone, then yes they need to go to prison.
Criminal justice reform doesn't mean we stop sending people to prison all together, it means we revise the kinds of things that we, as a society, deem to be justification for sending someone to prison.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:44 am to DelU249
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:44 am to DelU249
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mexico decriminalized the possession of illegal drugs for immediate and personal use like 10 years ago...what a crime free utopia that is.
How about Amsterdam and Portugal?
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