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re: Seemingly lost in all this Iran BS is they refused to stop developing nukes….

Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:48 am to
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:48 am to
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If someone doesn't know that China, NK, Iran, and Russia have a loose association then they probably shouldn't be posting on this board.

You should hang it up if you think their connections are “loose”.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:50 am to
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It’s mind boggling after what happened in Iraq with the claims of wmd’s and people still bite on it every single time.


Well this is quite a different story, and has developed a lot since that time. Iran’s uranium enrichment saga is pretty well documented. It’s actually mind boggling that you would equate the two.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2171 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:50 am to
Again, what would you have the US do? You complained then and you complain now so what exactly do you expect to happen. There is no negotiating with them and when/if they develop a nuclear weapon it would forever destabilize the Middle East. As usual you are just a contrarian because you like to argue
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:52 am to
Yep, the question for me? Have they been able to take advantage of our miniaturization of nuclear warheads technology we developed. Enough to stick one of their nukes (hint: they admitted they had enough material to build 11 nukes) on an intermediate or intercontinental range missile and point that sucka at Europe or the U.S. of A.

For clarification purposes, that would be the same miniaturization of nuclear warhead technology our pal Bill Clinton gave to the ChiComs, who in turn gave to the North Koreans, who in turn shared with America's enemies.

Elections have consequences.
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 8:24 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33940 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:52 am to
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Well this is quite a different story, and has developed a lot since that time. Iran’s uranium enrichment saga is pretty well documented. It’s actually mind boggling that you would equate the two.

Especially when Iran admitted themselves in the negotiations that they had enough material to build 11 bombs. If they decided it was in their best interests to lie about it, well that’s on them.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1976 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:01 pm to
“Again, what would you have the US do? You complained then and you complain now so what exactly do you expect to happen. There is no negotiating with them and when/if they develop a nuclear weapon it would forever destabilize the Middle East. As usual you are just a contrarian because you like to argue”

Classic lib. Sit on the sidelines and define the problem. When in charge throw money at and try to appease. When not in charge throw stones at every other solution.

In this case a lib with a keyboard on steroids.

Amazingly good at defining the obvious problem. Always the smartest person in the room in their mind. Never enough balls to propose or implement the solution. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:05 pm to
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Never enough balls to propose or implement the solution.


Neocons are SO back
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:07 pm to
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Neocons are SO back

What a solution Comrade!
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7901 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:08 pm to
Radical Islamic terrorists will have nuclear weapons soon when they complete the takeover of the United Kingdom and France.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33940 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:13 pm to
Let him be. He’s resorted to smartass comments and downvotes.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:18 pm to
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For clarification purposes, that would be the same miniaturization of nuclear warheads technology our pal Bill Clinton gave to the ChiComs, who in turn gave to the North Koreans, who in turn shared with America's enemies.


Clinton gave waivers to satellite companies to launch from China, thus allowing the Chinese access to our solid fuel rocket technology. They, in turn, gave that tech to NK, Iran, etc., allowing them to develop mobile ICBM capabilities.

We are chasing mobile launchers around Iran thanks to the Clintons. I will say the Chinese would have eventually gotten the classified docs from the Swalwell/Fang Fang connection anyway.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23178 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:24 pm to
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Trump wouldnt lie would he?


I’m not sure how you could call it a lie, as you are using one line from a press release and a series of press conferences as the entire claim. And even if you do accept the quote as the entire claim that all nuclear development facilities have been destroyed, that does not preclude them from continuing development since that time.

You can not like the decisions from the US, I get that, but those attacks last year were very explicitly framed as a warning, and Iran has a history of secretly developing nuclear sites and not honoring agreements, nuclear agreements specifically. Point being, time has passed, and it is not unreasonable to believe that their nuclear capabilities are more advanced now (or a few weeks ago) than they were after those strikes last year.

Calling Trump a liar over this, in my opinion, is a defense mechanism from having to mentally engage and understand the entire history surrounding Iranian hostility. It spans decades, and countries and leaders have been involved - it is an incredibly dynamic situation involving different t cultures and radical beliefs. In other words, it’s complicated.

None of that is a justification, it’s just a counter to a very lazy viewpoint attempting to establish what cannot be a justification
Posted by CTregistrar
Member since Aug 2024
124 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:43 pm to
Iran/Persia has a long history of "government" upheaval. It's people welcome new leadership then complain thereafter when "it" doesn't deliver. But in its long history, a western styled government has never been put in place nor has its people clammored for one. Nuclear weapons in such an unhealthy nation is dangerous not just for the USA or Israel, but the world. Who is to stop them from eyeing their neighbors (many were once occupied by Persia). So how will this distraction prevent the same scenario down the road? Where is there new leadership willing to do the hard work of eliminating the zealots and dictators? Each time we "enter" into a conflict with nations that have gone astray, our efforts have been in vain, Vietnam, Afghan, etc., Iran will be no different.
Posted by Branson
Member since Dec 2023
243 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:45 pm to
If someone doesn't know that China, NK, Iran, and Russia have a loose association then they probably shouldn't be posting on this board



Girl you are such a troll. Lol
You obviously didn't read the article. It explains in detail why all of the actions the Administration is taking that your media refuses to report accuratly. Maybe instead of pretending to be an "expert" on everything, you step back and maybe learn something. This is vastly beyond your depth so just bow out gracefully.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10555 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:46 pm to
Am innocuous thread title turns into another whiner thread.

But everybody knows this is an echo chamber full of "cultists".

Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19440 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:56 pm to
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I’m not sure how you could call it a lie, as you are using one line from a press release and a series of press conferences as the entire claim


The thing is, our own intelligence told the president that we wouldn’t destroy it, and that we only set them back a few months tops and yet the White House put this out in spite of that. I’m calling that a lie.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5611 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:59 pm to
FACT - the corrupt democrats never knew advancements in military technology they weren't eager to share with our enemies - in exchange for campaign contributions.

Sorry sack of shite.........all of'um.



This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Da Aug
Member since Oct 2022
33 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 1:04 pm to
Lady Graham, NeoCons and Zionists have hijacked our country. I'll believe Iran was developing nuclear weapons when they show me the weapons of mass destruction that Iraq possessed.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19931 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 1:08 pm to
There is a committee comprised of defense, treasury, SOS, etc, about nine members, who decide what technology should be restricted for defense, economic.

Under Bill he allowed the sat company to sell guidance to china and advanced their weapons systems significantly. Fast forward a couple of decades, remember the uranium one to canada that was then flipped to russia. Reference the aforementioned note, see where SOS is on the committee. The canadian company was the largest donor to the clinton foundation. Some shite never changes with the clintons.

Ironically they probably got kickbacks from the MIC as well since we had to spend 100s of millions to combat our enemies new tech
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1976 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 2:00 pm to
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Classic lib. Sit on the sidelines and define the problem.


You’re too stupid to even clip out the part that most applies to you.
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