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re: Section 602(b) of the Afghan Allies Protection Act of 2009 (AAPA)

Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:05 am to
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1430 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:05 am to
and if Alexander had simply put someone competent in charge, Afghanistan would be a prosperous and Greek-speaking country today!
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30541 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:05 am to
We don’t owe them jack shite…. Move them in with your stupid arse…
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3575 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:07 am to
Testify!

You ever read the account of Elfinstone's evacuation from Kabul? "I am the army."
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
943 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:09 am to
quote:

If we want people to change their allegiance from their home countries to America when we need the help, we owe them some protection. If anyone who helps US troops abroad will be identified and handed back to the countries they betrayed, we will never be able to recruit local help anywhere in the world.


Agreed; however, they are supposed to be vetted. They were never vetted.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294606 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:10 am to
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We don’t owe them jack shite…. Move them in with your stupid arse…


If we attack Venezuela, youre going to be very disappointed.

Guess who the new refugees will be?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18938 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Why do so many posters simply not care about the facts?
fact is Trump admin relied on information from so-called vetting when he was granted the original visa.

Biden admin didn't gather data because they were granting visas in the aftermath of that disastrous withdrawal.

Trump admin was stupid enough to continue using it without re-vetting.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39394 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Trump admin was stupid enough to continue using it without re-vetting.


I think they were/are trying to fix that as well as defunding it.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2025-06-03/afghan-refugees-program-shut-down-17994778.html
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2645 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:54 pm to
Trump let this guy in and then gave him Asylum.

No matter how you spin it, this is on him.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1430 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Trump let this guy in and then gave him Asylum. No matter how you spin it, this is on him.
No.

CONGRESS let him in, when it passed the AAPA.

BIDEN let him in, when his administration granted him a visa under that Act and granted him entry.

TRUMP let him stay, when his administration upgraded him to asylum status and let him stay.

There is plenty of blame to go around, ASSUMING that there were even any red flags that should have been caught during the vetting.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18938 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Trump let this guy in and then gave him Asylum.
factually incorrect.

He entered in the US under a visa less than 30 days after the Afghan withdrawal began during the Biden admin.

quote:

There is plenty of blame to go around, ASSUMING that there were even any red flags that should have been caught during the vetting.
therein lies much of the problem, both Biden & Trump admins.

Since he was working for the CIA under the guise of a NGO cursory vetting would not have turned up an issue. CIA would have had to flagged him and provided the necessary info.

Since Congress did not... A) require this of intel agencies and B) did not provide a mechanism and secure way to voluntarily flag this, his cover (a NGO) rode with him throughout the process.

Congress knew guys like him were being used 'off the books' going back to 2008. But the 2009 law did not allow for the fact we may give up and he ends up being in the US.

Really, the CIA should have arranged for him to die in some mysterious explosion or fled north to Uzbekistan with the leadership of the country, preferably the first one, when we gave up Bagram (when it was over). Coming to the US or capture by the Taliban should have not been an option, either, and the CIA should have in-house fixed this problem Congress did not plan for.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30541 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 4:03 pm to
Good grief you are retarded…
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294606 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 4:04 pm to
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Good grief you are retarded…


One of us understands cause/effect and it sure the frick isnt you.
Posted by ghost_rider10
Member since Nov 2025
119 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:35 pm to
Afghan allies? That’s all I need to hear… WTF is up with that
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30541 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 5:06 am to
You pivot to Venezuela in a discussion on Afghanistan and a program created by a functioning retard…. Like I said you are not even a high functioning retard…

Is there a damn thing your stupid arse has been right about in your TDS laden screed?
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 5:08 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294606 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 5:12 am to
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You pivot to Venezuela in a discussion on Afghanistan and a program created by a functioning retard


Sounds like your father failed you and never taught you about cause/effect.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30541 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:56 am to
I sincerely hope your dad did not have anymore kids to pollute the gene pool and I am certain your kids are queer, if you had any that lived…. Go frick yourself retard…
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57781 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:17 am to
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the problem isn't with the law, the intent, or the people who voted for it. It was designed to give promises to Afghans who helped us. Which I'm all for.

The problem was....
A) execution- to do that you have to do 'extreme vetting'
B) oversight- Congress, as usual, didn't provide adequate oversight to prevent abuse
C) abuse- because it wasn't being monitored everyone went crazy with it and wanted 'their Afghan' given protection. For open border Dims, that's EVERY Afghan.

Add to that our immigration is supposed to benefit our citizens. Part of that is assimilation. With the combo of handouts and open borders there is no consequence for any immigrant, legal or illegal, to not assimilate. This is the end result.

This guy worked for the CIA using a NGO as cover outside both the Afghan and US chain of command. He should have never been set loose without some monitoring and much more vetting. 'forced assimilation' is what should have happened here.


Solid response!

I would also add to this that there should be language included that mandates the immediate revocation of such a privilege in the event of committing a crime (B&E, assault, rape, etc).
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294606 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 9:49 am to
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I sincerely hope your dad did not have anymore kids to pollute the gene pool


He sure didnt raise a working class populist like yourself.

Winning.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30541 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:05 am to
No he raised a Chinese shill, I am certain he was entirely disappointed in your retarded arse…. Keep drawing your welfare bitch…
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294606 posts
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:06 am to
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No he raised a Chinese shill,


Sure beats populist welfare queens like you.

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