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re: Seattle stops funding UW research term that found harmful effect of 15/hr minimum wage

Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:17 am to
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:17 am to
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Anyone with common sense will tell you that wages have not kept up with inflation over the past 30 years.


It's 8.50 here, what do you think it should be? I wouldn't have a problem with it going up a smidgen. Pretty sure we don't pay any of our part timers (college kids) less than 10 at our places but I do think that's too much for everyone to pay in all jobs.

ETA: After looking at some numbers we are just fine, in fact, pretty dang generous if you play the 'living' wage mantra (of which I do not agree).

Arkansas min wage 8.50 cost of living indices calc based on avg of 100 - 83.4
California min wage 10.50 cost of living indices calc based on avg of 100 - 152.3
New York min wage 9.75 cost of living indices calc based on avg of 100 - 180



This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28151 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:17 am to
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You can run all the studies you want but the fact is that minimum wage needs to be raised.
Anyone with common sense will tell you that wages have not kept up with inflation over the past 30 years.
It has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative.


Mouthbreathers like this guy are how Bernie happens.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50796 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:19 am to
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Anyone with common sense will tell you that wages have not kept up with inflation over the past 30 years.


This is due to government intervention into the free market. The answer, clearly, is more government intervention.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
12813 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:20 am to
Looking at the research showed a elasticity of labor demand of 3. That's pretty elastic and should let Seattle know that their move to $13/hr was dumb.

HHM, this goes back to the question you asked the other day.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52920 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:21 am to
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You can run all the studies you want but the fact is that minimum wage needs to be raised.


Well all the studies agree that it's harmful, therefore, completely negating your "need" and throwing it into the "good intentions with disastrous effects" category. Good job sport!

quote:

Anyone with common sense will tell you that wages have not kept up with inflation over the past 30 years.


Hmmm, common sense is usually borne out of agreed upon facts. Again, see above.

quote:

It has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative.


Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:22 am to
lol at low IQs

funding was stopped because ALL the other studies found the opposite and this one had poor methodology
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19424 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:25 am to
This campaign will simply push the poor out of the city. Prices will rise and the jobs will disappear leaving the poor with no option but leaving.
Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
12813 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:27 am to
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Oh, what a scholar!




No goid p
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:27 am to



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the fact is that minimum wage needs to be raised.


indeed, if you can't afford to pay the employees you need to run your business a living wage, your business model doesn't work and you should not be running a business
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:33 am to
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No goid p

NO JERB
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:36 am to
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ALL the other studies found the opposite

they ALL found that MW increases increased labor demand and employment? wow!!
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and this one had poor methodology

i love how everyone's a synthetic control expert now
Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
12813 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:38 am to
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they ALL found that MW increases increased labor demand and employment? wow!!


There was one back in the 90s that did and

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and this one had poor methodology
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:39 am to
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because ALL the other studies found the opposite
Well this is just demonstrably false.

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this one had poor methodology

You sound exactly like a Creation Scientist.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48743 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:39 am to
Spoken like a true scientist.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48743 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:40 am to
Liar. Prove it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:40 am to
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indeed, if you can't afford to pay the employees you need to run your business a living wage, your business model doesn't work and you should not be running a business


I always wonder if, when liberals spout this line, they've thought through its implications?

I mean, they can't have done so. That much is clear.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11832 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:52 am to
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indeed, if you can't afford to pay the employees you need to run your business a living wage, your business model doesn't work and you should not be running a business


So the roll of a business is to provide pay to workers? Last is checked it was to make money and the by product work work.

So by ur logic is better to have no jobs then starter/workforce entry jobs.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:09 am to
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wages have not kept up with inflation

Someone doesn't understand how inflation is also affected by an increase in wages
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:14 am to
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This is how the "science" of man-made global warming was settled.

This
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:37 am to
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So the roll of a business is to provide pay to workers?


oh look, a special snowflake who believes everyone deserves a business, how cute



This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 11:39 am
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