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re: Seattle pastor claims newspaper canceled church's Easter service ad after CEO objected

Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:21 am to
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:21 am to
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$18,500

Ok. I'll go this way.

How much value do you place on mortal man's life?
This seems a small cost for an invitation to a good party.

And from the OP:
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"the owner [Frank Blethen] personally stepped in today and canceled your ad." He was told the prominent religious ad would hurt the company's reputation.

"They said, ‘You know, it didn’t really fit with the ethic of the paper.’

No need for further explanation of the media's intention when they lay it down at the feet of their master, right in front of us.

Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28834 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:58 am to
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Seattle pastor claims newspaper canceled church's Easter service ad after CEO objected


Someone at the paper isn't going to receive their blethens.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 8:59 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72462 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:13 am to
Yeah, I don't care about any of that. I'm just calling it what it is.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47754 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:25 am to
Did the pastor get his money back?

A respected and reputable newspaper wouldn’t cancel an ad but keep the money used to reserve it. $18,500 should be nothing to the Seattle Times
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 9:27 am
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8605 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:39 am to
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frick it. Lets do it to them too.


And have the ACLU, SPLC, ADL, MSM, Hollywood, flex?

"Never Forget! Antisemite laws (and card) are real." ~ Mel Gibson
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61314 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:29 am to
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Complaining about a private business doing whatever it wants isn’t “fighting back” against anything.

This isn't a private business "doing whatever it wants." The newspaper voluntarily entered into a contract agreement with the church. They subsequently broke the contract based on nothing more than the CEO's emotions. The entire economy runs on the expectation that people will honor contracts.

I hope the church sues the frick out of them
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72462 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:30 am to
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The newspaper voluntarily entered into a contract agreement with the church. They subsequently broke the contract based on nothing more than the CEO's emotions.


Do we have the contract?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61314 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:33 am to
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Do we have the contract?
Haven't seen it.

Whatever the CEO did, according to his own employees as quoted in the OP, was unprecedented in the newspaper's existence.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72462 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:34 am to
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Haven't seen it.


OK, so we don't really know if the church has anything to stand on.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7025 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:42 am to
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Godlessness is what the new generation of American produces.


and it shows... Our Christian Nation is loosing it's moral compass and values only to become more and more like Sodom and Gomora under this this called progress and tolerance.

I don't think any where in the bible it recommends drag queens reading to Children or defunding the police.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50380 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:46 am to
Wonder if this was a Muslim requesting something similar if the paper would have done the same thing?

LOL JK that's a rhetorical question. Progressives want to eliminate Christians. Everyone else is just fine.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6942 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:50 am to
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Do people actually care if a some newspaper that no one reads prints an ad or not

I bet the church cared since the ad was ostensibly meant to attract people to go to their Easter service to worship that particular day. They might have attracted a percentage of newcomers to return. It hurts attendance not just once, but repeatedly.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14511 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:54 am to
It would be interesting to see an image of the ad.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72462 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:57 am to
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I don't think any where in the bible it recommends drag queens reading to Children or defunding the police.


I don't think it talks about buying your kids smartphones or your wife that new SUV, either.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61314 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:12 am to
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OK, so we don't really know if the church has anything to stand on.

This is a good place to start
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Whatever the CEO did, according to his own employees as quoted in the OP, was unprecedented in the newspaper's existence.



No one from the newspaper is claiming that there was no contract, or that the contract allowed for it to be violated based on the personal views of the CEO.

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The ad's original messaging mentioning "Hell" and "revival" was altered after it was rejected by the paper, but a modified version of the ad was finally accepted and paid for on March 19, the emails reportedly showed.

However, Johnson said the contract was canceled the following day, just two days before the ad was to be published.

He claimed the marketing team told him that "the owner [Frank Blethen] personally stepped in today and canceled your ad." He was told the prominent religious ad would hurt the company's reputation.

"They said, ‘You know, it didn’t really fit with the ethic of the paper.’ However, the marketing team told me in all of their years of doing advertising for The Seattle Times, this has never once happened, where the owner and the CEO personally stepped in at the last minute to cancel a signed contract," Johnson told Rantz.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72462 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:24 am to
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unprecedented




It'll be interesting to watch this shake out if this is what they're relying on.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61314 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:31 am to
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It'll be interesting to watch this shake out if this is what they're relying on.

Let me ask you a real-life question. Have you ever entered into a contractual agreement with a business? You know, they promised to do XYZ and you promised to pay X amount. If so, what was it?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:35 am to
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Let me ask you a real-life question. Have you ever entered into a contractual agreement with a business? You know, they promised to do XYZ and you promised to pay X amount. If so, what was it?


Many contracts, and I would not be surprised this contract, where the buyer has no leverage, reserve the right to terminate for any reason or no reason.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61314 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:39 am to
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Many contracts, and I would not be surprised this contract, where the buyer has no leverage, reserve the right to terminate for any reason or no reason.

Could be. But I keep going back to the quote from the employees that this had never happened before at that newspaper. And they quote the CEO as being personally offended by the ad. Just based on what we know, I'd say the newspaper is in deep doo doo.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72462 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:39 am to
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Let me ask you a real-life question. Have you ever entered into a contractual agreement with a business? You know, they promised to do XYZ and you promised to pay X amount. If so, what was it?


Yup, and it was more than two lines. Crazy, right?
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