re: Sean Hannity Testifies He Never Believed The 2020 Election Was Fraudulent

I'm assuming such an undetected fraud would need to be conducted by multiple people working toward this nefarious end in secret (a conspiracy).

Wouldn't it have to be a conspiracy?

I apologize if I offended you. I don't know your motivations for your particular beliefs.

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I don't know your motivations for your particular beliefs.

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You don't know anybody's unless they tell you.

What democracy advocates tend to fear about such endeavors are the implementation of policies that don't make fraud substantially less likely and actually reduce voting (and in authortarian countries that are erstwhile democracies they have been used for that very purpose).

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What democracy advocates tend to fear about such endeavors are the implementation of policies that don't make fraud substantially less likely and actually reduce voting

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Are you implying that those wanting to tighten up election laws aren't democracy advocates?

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Are you this fastidious with the motivations of libs, Flats? You take their motivations at face value?

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You’ve spent seven pages claiming to know what people think and why. Have I done that?

Heh. Touche. You're a good fellow.

I suppose that's possible. My interpretation has been that it's been an intentional top-down political strategy to allege fraud in advance at times - at least following Trump's lead. In both his elections he said during the campaign there would be fraud and in at least one claimed in advance that if he lost it should be considered illegitimate. RW Outlets that claimed fraud got stuck with major liability and are probably gunshy.

And for Flats - I think David's example is a good one for how adherents in good standing on the right can hide their skepticism of the big lie under a bushel. Quiet skeptics are real and you can find evidence for them when you look.

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My interpretation has been that it's been an intentional top-down political strategy to allege fraud in advance at times - at least following Trump's lead. In both his elections he said during the campaign there would be fraud and in at least one claimed in advance that if he lost it should be considered illegitimate. RW Outlets that claimed fraud got stuck with major liability and are probably gunshy.

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Both parties do this. It's just part of the political landscape today.

But that doesn't mean there isn't legit cheating or laws that are ignored.

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Both parties do this. It's just part of the political landscape today. But that doesn't mean there isn't legit cheating or laws that are ignored.

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It’s no use. He refuses to believe it. He thought the Russia hoax was real. He’s never going to concede Trump might have been cheated.

Some people on here have TDS so bad they ignore reality. It goes beyond that with others. They cannot bring themselves to believe that our government is essentially a criminal cartel now. It’s why they cannot understand why we see sending Ukraine money as a useless and wasted.