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re: Seal (Ret,) Don Shipley checked out Chief Recon Ranger
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Bingo
Wait wait wait wait wait......Decatur thought that because FOIA was at the top, it had to be an illegitimate DD-214? Even though it was requested via FOIA?
quote:
The records are available to the public through the Freedom of Information Act and the Privacy Act.
Bet if I requested mine it would have the Privacy Act Statement on it. If good old Don requested mine it would say FOIA.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:49 pm to ClientNumber9
quote:Not much I can reveal. It involved wearing of badges and tabs not authorized. And it was incredibly easy to spot. In one instance the individual had been told by previous supervisors to produce documentation (format 320 order for the Army) or stop wearing the devices. They did until they moved on to another unit (a common practice I have seen).
Tell us more about this.
Completely stupid and unnecessary in both cases. You do not make SFC (E7) and MSG (E8) if you do not have something going for you.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:50 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:Crazy a SNCO would hang it out for something like that.
Completely stupid and unnecessary in both cases. You do not make SFC (E7) and MSG (E8) if you do not have something going for you.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:53 pm to Jbird
quote:I was a 1LT the first time (they were my platoon sergeant) and it did not really hit me hard when they chose reduction and separation in lieu of court martial. It should have but it didn't.
Crazy a SNCO would hang it out for something like that.
The second one I was a COL and it made me sick to my stomach to see someone throw away their career over Army bling on their uniform.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:54 pm to Wolfhound45
Amazing, so I am assuming OTH discharge?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:56 pm to Jbird
quote:
Decatur thought that because FOIA was at the top, it had to be an illegitimate DD-214? Even though it was requested via FOIA?
quote:
Bet if I requested mine it would have the Privacy Act Statement on it.
You could request a copy of your own I’m but I’m doubting I could get a copy of your form without your consent through FOIA. Now maybe I could get some information from your personnel file through FOIA but I don’t think I’d get a copy of your DD214.
Am I really off here?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:01 pm to Decatur
quote:It's like the fricking link I posted doesn't exist in your world.
I don’t think I’d get a copy of your DD214.
Yes, yes you can.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:04 pm to autauga
Nathan Phillips as Nathan Stanard:
"shite Talkers" , the follow up sequel to the Box Office hit "Wind Talkers".
"shite Talkers" , the follow up sequel to the Box Office hit "Wind Talkers".
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:05 pm to Decatur
quote:I'll go with the odds here.........yes.
Am I really off here?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:08 pm to autauga
Has Elizabeth Warren commented on this guy yet? I need to hear what the woman who lies about being Indian has to say about the lying Indian.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:11 pm to Jbird
quote:
Although more detailed information is available to next of kin and other authorized parties, only a limited amount of information can be released to the general public. Typically, the information released includes rank, dates of services and where the individual in question was stationed.
This doesn’t say they can release the DD214 to the public.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:12 pm to Jbird
quote:Oh hell yeah
Amazing, so I am assuming OTH discharge?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:15 pm to Wolfhound45
I am guessing they went with the easy out to apply for a general after the fact?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:23 pm to Jbird
The first form in there looks like what was posted in the video but still...that’s not actually a DD214. Maybe Mr. Shipley was just being careless in his description.
Still doesn’t make much sense how he’d get a response so quickly unless someone made the request at some time in the past prior to last week. I don’t know how likely that is.
Still doesn’t make much sense how he’d get a response so quickly unless someone made the request at some time in the past prior to last week. I don’t know how likely that is.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:23 pm to Wolfhound45
Thanks for sharing. Awesome stuff. I guess people become almost mentally dependent on the praise and respect these faux devices/ribbons bring.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:24 pm to Decatur
quote:Meh, don't care.
Still doesn’t make much sense how he’d get a response so quickly unless someone made the request at some time in the past prior to last week. I don’t know how likely that is.
FOIA and Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF)
The public has access to certain military service information without the veteran's authorization or that of the next-of-kin (the un-remarried widow or widower, son, daughter, father, mother, brother or sister) of deceased veterans. Examples of information which may be available from Federal (non-archival) Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF) without an unwarranted invasion of privacy include:
Name
Service Number
Dates of Service
Branch of Service
Final Duty Status
Final Rank
Salary *
Assignments and Geographical Locations
Source of Commission *
Military Education Level
Promotion Sequence Number *
Awards and decorations (eligibility only, not actual medals)
Photograph
Transcript of Courts-Martial Trials
Place of entrance and separation
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:26 pm to Decatur
So let me get this straight-you don't believe that Shipley has valid information? You are more inclined to believe Nathan Phillips and his story over someone who outs people like this for a living?
Obviously, dude has connections. Regardless of how he got the information I believe every word Shipley is saying.
Obviously, dude has connections. Regardless of how he got the information I believe every word Shipley is saying.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:28 pm to Jbird
Not sure what they did afterwards.
It was amazing how both of them fought it until the end. Swore they were authorized their badges and tabs (first one was Combat Medical Badge, Senior Parachutist Badge, Special Forces Tab - second was Combat Action Badge, EOD Badge, Master Parachutist Badge, Ranger Tab, Sapper Tab). Then when charges were referred they folded like a lawn chair.
Begged the CG (25th ID the first, 5th Army the second) for a Chapter 10 from AR 635-200 ILO of a court martial.
It was amazing how both of them fought it until the end. Swore they were authorized their badges and tabs (first one was Combat Medical Badge, Senior Parachutist Badge, Special Forces Tab - second was Combat Action Badge, EOD Badge, Master Parachutist Badge, Ranger Tab, Sapper Tab). Then when charges were referred they folded like a lawn chair.
Begged the CG (25th ID the first, 5th Army the second) for a Chapter 10 from AR 635-200 ILO of a court martial.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:30 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
It was amazing how both of them fought it until the end. Swore they were authorized their badges and tabs (first one was Combat Medical Badge, Senior Parachutist Badge, Special Forces Tab - second was Combat Action Badge, EOD Badge, Master Parachutist Badge, Ranger Tab, Sapper Tab). Then when charges were referred they folded like a lawn cha
quote:I can imagine!
Begged the CG (25th ID the first, 5th Army the second) for a Chapter 10 from AR 635-200 ILO of a court martial.
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